(August 14, 2013 at 2:26 pm)John V Wrote: If hell's not a bad place, then quit bitching about god sending people there. Yet another example of atheists wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

Well, it all depends on whether Hell is a place of unending torture or just a place where God isn't. Being subject to unending torture for the crime of acting according to the behavioral patterns we were programmed to exhibit is worth bitching about, at least in the context of pretending it's not all just a really brutal and stupid fantasy conjured up by simpletons.

Quote:If God was to allow nonbelievers into heaven that would be torture for them.

So heaven and hell are both torture for atheists?

(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(August 14, 2013 at 2:59 pm)Chas Wrote: So, you speak for God? You know all about Him?

You arrogance and delusion are monumental. Accent on the mental.

I do not have to speak for God, in the end His justice will prevail. I know God through the scriptures and personal experience, it's your own arrogance that keeps you from seeing Him.

GC

Oh, yes, the old arrogant atheist retort. You think you were specially created, that the magic ruler of the universe cares about you, watches over, loves you. And you call me arrogant?

You are a deluded moron.

Until we can verify its existence, it remains a fairy tale.

(August 14, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: God is justice, and in that justice demands a verdict of guilty to those who sin against God's nature, and those who do not accept the pardon offered by God, will suffer the consequences of their sin.

Tell you what... if this deity or one of his minions were to appear and offer me this "pardon" you speak of, I might accept it. Until then, this blather you're spitting out carries no more weight than the ancients who insisted that Bal or Ra or Apollo or Zeus were real.

(August 14, 2013 at 4:22 pm)HalcyonicTrust Wrote:

Quote:If God was to allow nonbelievers into heaven that would be torture for them.

So heaven and hell are both torture for atheists?

Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.

GC

(August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.

GC

Since when is inflicting physical pain on someone justice in a civilised society?

About 2001.....

(August 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm)Chas Wrote:

(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not have to speak for God, in the end His justice will prevail. I know God through the scriptures and personal experience, it's your own arrogance that keeps you from seeing Him.

GC

Oh, yes, the old arrogant atheist retort. You think you were specially created, that the magic ruler of the universe cares about you, watches over, loves you. And you call me arrogant?

You are a deluded moron.

I might be a moron but, I know the one who saves and you refuse Him, so what does that make you, one who would choose to be punished, not even close to smart.

GC

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(August 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:

(August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.

GC

Since when is inflicting physical pain on someone justice in a civilised society?

Can you prove that hell is a place of physical pain.

GC

(August 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: Can you prove that hell is a place of physical pain.

GC

So is it something different? And can you prove it?