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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 4:00 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 2:26 pm)John V Wrote: If hell's not a bad place, then quit bitching about god sending people there. Yet another example of atheists wanting to have their cake and eat it too.
Well, it all depends on whether Hell is a place of unending torture or just a place where God isn't. Being subject to unending torture for the crime of acting according to the behavioral patterns we were programmed to exhibit is worth bitching about, at least in the context of pretending it's not all just a really brutal and stupid fantasy conjured up by simpletons.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 4:22 pm
Quote:If God was to allow nonbelievers into heaven that would be torture for them.
So heaven and hell are both torture for atheists?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: (August 14, 2013 at 2:59 pm)Chas Wrote: So, you speak for God? You know all about Him?
You arrogance and delusion are monumental. Accent on the mental.
I do not have to speak for God, in the end His justice will prevail. I know God through the scriptures and personal experience, it's your own arrogance that keeps you from seeing Him.
 GC
Oh, yes, the old arrogant atheist retort. You think you were specially created, that the magic ruler of the universe cares about you, watches over, loves you. And you call me arrogant?
You are a deluded moron.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm
Until we can verify its existence, it remains a fairy tale.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 5:52 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 2:56 pm)Godschild Wrote: God is justice, and in that justice demands a verdict of guilty to those who sin against God's nature, and those who do not accept the pardon offered by God, will suffer the consequences of their sin.
Tell you what... if this deity or one of his minions were to appear and offer me this "pardon" you speak of, I might accept it. Until then, this blather you're spitting out carries no more weight than the ancients who insisted that Bal or Ra or Apollo or Zeus were real.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.
God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 4:22 pm)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: Quote:If God was to allow nonbelievers into heaven that would be torture for them.
So heaven and hell are both torture for atheists?
Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.
GC
Since when is inflicting physical pain on someone justice in a civilised society?
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 6:35 pm
About 2001.....
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm by Godscreated.)
(August 14, 2013 at 4:23 pm)Chas Wrote: (August 14, 2013 at 3:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: I do not have to speak for God, in the end His justice will prevail. I know God through the scriptures and personal experience, it's your own arrogance that keeps you from seeing Him.
GC
Oh, yes, the old arrogant atheist retort. You think you were specially created, that the magic ruler of the universe cares about you, watches over, loves you. And you call me arrogant?
You are a deluded moron.
I might be a moron but, I know the one who saves and you refuse Him, so what does that make you, one who would choose to be punished, not even close to smart.
GC
(August 14, 2013 at 6:32 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: (August 14, 2013 at 6:30 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell is justice, not torture as you would see it.
GC
Since when is inflicting physical pain on someone justice in a civilised society?
Can you prove that hell is a place of physical pain.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Is Hell Really a Bad Place?
August 14, 2013 at 6:38 pm
(August 14, 2013 at 6:36 pm)Godschild Wrote: Can you prove that hell is a place of physical pain.
GC
So is it something different? And can you prove it?
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