I agree with Max...if this lunacy was anywhere else but the bible, there would be no question as to it's silliness. Throw god into it, and suddenly the deluded feel the need to defend him...warts and all.

(September 4, 2013 at 2:49 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: I agree with Max...if this lunacy was anywhere else but the bible, there would be no question as to it's silliness. Throw god into it, and suddenly the deluded feel the need to defend him...warts and all.

You seriously consider it lunacy to say that punishment should be commensurate with the crime? Heck, atheists argue just that all the time with regard to eternal punishment.

If this is an example of eye for an eye, as John says, then the punishment should be simply to grab hold of the woman's genitalia or breasts or something of that nature in return. That, however, is not the case in this passage.

The question remains: why is this particular law no longer practiced? Why is slavery suddenly wrong? Why are there gay ministers?

Dudes. It's because it's all bullshit, and Christians don't even realize that they realize this!

(September 4, 2013 at 1:38 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(September 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Are you reading the bible and just posting the nonsense as you find them?

That could be a lifelong endeavor!

Ditch the bible now so as to not waste any more of your life.

(September 4, 2013 at 3:01 pm)John V Wrote: You seriously consider it lunacy to say that punishment should be commensurate with the crime?

There is a huge difference between punishment and torture. Placing someone in jail for life is punishment. Placing someone in a fiery pit to be attacked by demons is torture.

Theists always seem to make the erroneous mistake of comparing god's punishment with that of a parent punishing his child. The major difference is that I do not see parents throwing their children into fiery pits when they misbehave.

(September 4, 2013 at 3:06 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:

(September 4, 2013 at 3:01 pm)John V Wrote: You seriously consider it lunacy to say that punishment should be commensurate with the crime?

There is a huge difference between punishment and torture. Placing someone in jail for life is punishment. Placing someone in a fiery pit to be attacked by demons is torture.

Theists always seem to make the erroneous mistake of comparing god's punishment with that of a parent punishing his child. The major difference is that I do not see parents throwing their children into fiery pits when they misbehave.

Do you think the concept of the punishment being commensurate with the crime to be lunacy?

(September 4, 2013 at 3:20 pm)John V Wrote: Do you think the concept of the punishment being commensurate with the crime to be lunacy?

It is not commensurate, and it is lunacy.

(September 4, 2013 at 3:01 pm)John V Wrote:

(September 4, 2013 at 2:49 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: I agree with Max...if this lunacy was anywhere else but the bible, there would be no question as to it's silliness. Throw god into it, and suddenly the deluded feel the need to defend him...warts and all.

You seriously consider it lunacy to say that punishment should be commensurate with the crime? Heck, atheists argue just that all the time with regard to eternal punishment.

The passage quoted goes beyond commensuration, so this I call lunacy. Actually, 'cruel and unusual' is a more appropriate label.

Just because you believe your god to be just and fair doesn't make it so.

(September 4, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: It is not commensurate, and it is lunacy.

The verse max referenced was:

19 If a man causes disfigurement of his neighbor, as he has done, so shall it be done to him.

How is that not commensurate?

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(September 4, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: The passage quoted goes beyond commensuration, so this I call lunacy. Actually, 'cruel and unusual' is a more appropriate label.

Just because you believe your god to be just and fair doesn't make it so.

The verse max quoted was:

19 If a man causes disfigurement of his neighbor, as he has done, so shall it be done to him.

This is, indeed, commensurate.

(September 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm)John V Wrote: How is that not commensurate?

By the very fact that it is primitively inhuman.