(September 12, 2013 at 2:52 am)Godschild Wrote:
Actually I do not believe I've jumped through hoops to come to a conclusion on verses in scripture, I have said and still do I do not understand everything in the Bible. I do believe those verses I have explained over the last 3 years and I do believe I've given reasonable responses for them. Yet when the same verses, as the ones in this thread, come up time and again it shows no one was paying attention, or they just want to keep an argument going, or they just do not care. I get tired of explaining the same verses over and over especially these particular verses, because no one in the past has ever argued against what I have said about them. Atheist have certain pet verses they stand on and they do not like seeing their ideas about these verses shot down, well that's to bad IMO. When a right interpretation is made it's right and most atheist just can't stand it and will make foolish statements, or ignore the explanation like it's the plague and then come back with the same verses again. If a Christian shoots down an atheists idea about particular scriptures and they do not come back with a defense, then why should Christians have to keep putting up with the ignorance, maybe what we need is a place to store such conversations so things do not get rehashed and new members can be direct to the arguments, just sayin'.
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In some ways I sympathize but it is the nature of a forum - things get repeated as nauseam, but, probably not always from the same individual.
Certain verses in the Bible get highlighted because what they say on the face of it is entirely morally unacceptable to most. It shouldn't be a surprise, therefore, that many individuals identify the same verses as issues.
I guess the only easy approach for you is to keep your own copy of "stock responses."
Telling people to search the forum as you have already answered the question isn't really much help - searching on forums is not straightforward and rarely yields the results you are looking for.
As for the meat of your response it is what I would have predicted. You don't, ultimately see it as unreasonable or that your work level was that high to find your answers. For others, however, both apply.
I suppose as long as you are asking the reasonable question then that is OK. Maybe you will get through your entire life being OK with it, maybe some one thing will come along and be the straw that broke the camel's back, who knows?
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A small thanks to the resident Theists..
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  RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 12, 2013 at 3:25 am
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(September 12, 2013 at 2:52 am)Godschild Wrote:
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 12, 2013 at 3:53 am
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2013 at 3:57 am by max-greece.)
I can't resist asking - do you think if you didn't ask God directly but went straight to studying scripture you'd get your answer anyway? Do you think the answer you get might be different without the direct questioning first?
Also - are you always satisfied with the answers you get? Do you ever get an answer that disappoints you in some way? Do the answers sometimes raise other questions? Too many questions - sorry - just trying to understand a bit more of your process.  (September 12, 2013 at 2:52 am)Godschild Wrote: I do believe those verses I have explained over the last 3 years and I do believe I've given reasonable responses for them. I wasn't on this board 3 years ago, so please provide a link or else explain your position. Quote:Read the verses and reason, just take the time to reason please. Translation: Stop using your brain and you'll see that bible passages can mean whatever you want them to mean.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.
'Reason' in this case appears to be 'Just accept that it means what I say it means'.
 (September 12, 2013 at 2:30 am)Godschild Wrote:(September 11, 2013 at 5:42 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I'm sure you have, the problem is I cannot find it. Link? Are you not paying attention? Did you see where I said 'adult' - and that it was not age that was the issue? I don't care if the son in question is 5 or 50 - it matters not.  (September 12, 2013 at 2:52 am)Godschild Wrote: If a Christian shoots down an atheists idea about particular scriptures and they do not come back with a defense, then why should Christians have to keep putting up with the ignorance, maybe what we need is a place to store such conversations so things do not get rehashed and new members can be direct to the arguments, just sayin'. Interesting. DeistPaladin tried suggesting exactly that and immediately found himself beneath a dogpile of naysayers. Now it's suddenly a good idea?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(September 12, 2013 at 11:02 am)Stimbo Wrote:(September 12, 2013 at 2:52 am)Godschild Wrote: If a Christian shoots down an atheists idea about particular scriptures and they do not come back with a defense, then why should Christians have to keep putting up with the ignorance, maybe what we need is a place to store such conversations so things do not get rehashed and new members can be direct to the arguments, just sayin'. That's different, derp.
Silly old Stimbo!
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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