Deuteronomy 18:20-22
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.


Matthew 16:28

“Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 16:28

Obviously - the christ of the bible IS NOT the voice of the lord

IF you look at the bible - Deuteronomy 18:20-22 should disqualify Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jonah, Jesus, and Paul.

Regarding the OT...if it doesn't aid with gay bashing, Christians claim to be under no obligation to entertain it.

(September 16, 2013 at 3:07 pm)ThomM Wrote: Deuteronomy 18:20-22
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.”
21 You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.


Matthew 16:28

“Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.” Matthew 16:28

Obviously - the christ of the bible IS NOT the voice of the lord

IF you look at the bible - Deuteronomy 18:20-22 should disqualify Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Jonah, Jesus, and Paul.

Hold on cowboy, Christ says "28 “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

So the burden of proof on you to establish that Christ's Kingdom did not come as described before all of those men died.

Ugh...speaking of burdens...

It is understandable that the bible would consider Jesus a false prophet, for especially the Jews knew he was not the son of god.

(September 16, 2013 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote: So the burden of proof on you to establish that Christ's Kingdom did not come as described before all of those men died.

What the fuck? Sometimes people really don't understand the burden of proof. It's never someone's obligation to prove that something didn't happen or doesn't exist.

(September 16, 2013 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote: Hold on cowboy, Christ says "28 “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

So the burden of proof on you to establish that Christ's Kingdom did not come as described before all of those men died.

A kingdom is a pretty substantial thing. The earliest written history of Jesus comes from Galatians, arguably written in the year 48 CE. That's about 20 years after the "death" of Jesus. The Jews have no record of an independent kingdom since the Babylonian invasion of 434 BCE. Judea was undeniably ruled by the Romans in the first century CE.

What I'm getting at is that Jesus did nothing to bring glory and rebirth to the Jewish people. He was no king when he was alive, and he didn't return to Earth in the lifetimes of his apostles with a new kingdom. Spiritually, some could call him a king, but most of them would be Gentiles from the 2nd century on. There was very little acceptance of Jesus in the Jewish world. The "existence" of Jesus did nothing for the Jews, and almost nil for those that believed in him before they died. He failed in his promise. He did not return with a new kingdom before all of his original believers died.

Christ was no king, and never will be.

The Kingdom of Christ is the Christian Church, and it was going before those He spoke to were dead. Jesus is the ruler of the church and the lives it encompasses.

GC

(September 16, 2013 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote: So the burden of proof on you to establish that Christ's Kingdom did not come as described before all of those men died.

Sometimes I read things like this and just wonder, "where the hell do I go with this?"

I'm sure Steven Colbert has listened to some in the GOP and asked himself the same thing.

Hey, Drippy....

verse 27 says "27 For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done. "

When did that shit happen? How come everyone missed it? Maybe the JWs are right and your boy snuck back in 1914?