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Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 1:56 am
If a being was convinced it was omniscient, then how could it be aware of what it does not know?It was convinced of such, then how could it ever learn anything? If it can't learn how does it stay all knowing?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 1:59 am
If the being is omniscient, it already knows everything. It would be an impossibility for a truly omniscient being to not be aware of something.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:03 am
(September 26, 2013 at 1:59 am)Maelstrom Wrote: If the being is omniscient, it already knows everything. It would be an impossibility for a truly omniscient being to not be aware of something.
But facts can change. Then again is supposed to all seing.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:05 am
Facts may appear to change according to the average person, but those facts were always known to the omniscient being.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:06 am
(September 26, 2013 at 2:05 am)Maelstrom Wrote: Facts may appear to change according to the average person, but those facts were always known to the omniscient being.
Can god know where the electron will be?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:08 am
(September 26, 2013 at 2:06 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can god know where the electron will be?
God does not exist, but a truly omniscient being would know precisely where the electron will be.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:11 am
(September 26, 2013 at 2:08 am)Maelstrom Wrote: (September 26, 2013 at 2:06 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Can god know where the electron will be?
God does not exist, but a truly omniscient being would know precisely where the electron will be.
True enough
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:18 am
A truly omniscient being would probably be suicidal. What would there be to live for if you knew everything that had happened, everything that was happening now and everything that was going to happen.
How would that being get up in the morning? What would it have to look forward to?
To me said being is cursed beyond measure.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:20 am
I know that if I was, I'd use my infinite knowledge to guide man consistently and clearly, getting rid of the word "speculation" and erasing religious debate from this world.
God has never done any of this.
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RE: Is god really omniscient?
September 26, 2013 at 2:21 am
(September 26, 2013 at 1:56 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: If a being was convinced it was omniscient, then how could it be aware of what it does not know?It was convinced of such, then how could it ever learn anything? If it can't learn how does it stay all knowing?
You must be describing yourself, you know, never learning and knowing very little, because you believe you know all.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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