Quote:It is what it is.

No. It is what idiots invented it to be.

(September 27, 2013 at 12:22 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Actually, the table is right...
The text, they got from the CIA factbook:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications...os/xx.html

while the table comes from a pew worldwide demographic study:
http://www.pewforum.org/2012/12/18/globa...cape-exec/
Where they state

Quote:At the same time, the new study by the Pew Forum also finds that roughly one-in-six people around the globe (1.1 billion, or 16%) have no religious affiliation. This makes the unaffiliated the third-largest religious group worldwide, behind Christians and Muslims, and about equal in size to the world’s Catholic population. Surveys indicate that many of the unaffiliated hold some religious or spiritual beliefs (such as belief in God or a universal spirit) even though they do not identify with a particular faith.

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The Religiously Unaffiliated

The religiously unaffiliated population includes atheists, agnostics and people who do not identify with any particular religion in surveys. However, many of the religiously unaffiliated do hold religious or spiritual beliefs. For example, various surveys have found that belief in God or a higher power is shared by 7% of unaffiliated Chinese adults, 30% of unaffiliated French adults and 68% of unaffiliated U.S. adults.

Still more than 2%...

I honestly don't care. The point I was making was that Atheist are by far in the minority. And for a small miniority to say that just because the majority does not think and act as we do make them crazy, in of itself is crazy.

Why not address that point?

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(September 27, 2013 at 12:22 pm)Tonus Wrote:

(September 27, 2013 at 12:05 pm)Drich Wrote: I see you were confused by the table allow me to paste the first line of the wiki page for you:

But further down the page, in the notes, it says:

Quote:Nonreligious includes agnostic, atheist, secular humanist, and people answering 'none' or no religious preference. Half of this group is theistic but nonreligious. According to a 2012 study by Gallup International "59% of the world said that they think of themselves as religious person [sic], 23% think of themselves as not religious whereas 13% think of themselves as convinced atheists".

Now you're looking at 13% being atheists and 36% claiming not to be religious and a total of 41% not professing to be religious. That's a slight bit more than 2.01%.

Drich Wrote:Lets give you the benfit of the doubt, and say 1/2 do. then what? that still leaves 1/3 of the world's population as being High functioning 'delousional' people.

It's a lot less in light of the second set of statistics.

Again I don't care. But I would like to point out the difference between an Atheist and the Non religious. Atheist=No God, Non Religious means does not submit to organized religion. I was 'non-religious' durning my wife's Drug addiction which was almost 10 years of my life. That did not make me an atheist. In fact I made me stronger in my faith.

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(September 27, 2013 at 12:49 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(September 27, 2013 at 12:36 pm)Drich Wrote: How many knocks did it take for the neighbor? One more than you are willing to give.

Typical bullshit. If you prayed to God numerous times to find your faith and you don't and then give up, if only you'd prayed one more time you'd have found Jesus. That's why Drich believes that his a/s/k always works, but for anyone who it doesn't work for if they'd only a/s/k'ed one more time then God probably would have revealed himself.

In other words, you have to keep seeking the Lord until you give in and become religious. Anyone who prays and doesn't get an answer just wasn't praying enough.

I did not truly understand the meaning of A/S/K till some time after I left my religion.

(September 27, 2013 at 1:33 pm)Drich Wrote: I honestly don't care. The point I was making was that Atheist are by far in the minority. And for a small miniority to say that just because the majority does not think and act as we do make them crazy, in of itself is crazy.

You seem to be stuck on the erroneous assumption that because the majority, millions of people, believe in something that what they believe in must be true. I do not care if billions of people believe in unicorns. If there is no verifiable evidence to support the existence of unicorns, then those billions of people are delusional. Theists are no less delusional for their belief in god, a being for which there is also no verifiable evidence to support his existence.

Argument ad populum from you Drich? Really?

(September 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: You seem to be stuck on the erroneous assumption that because the majority, millions of people, believe in something that what they believe in must be true.

No, he said that if the majority believe in something, then that belief is not crazy. And he's correct.

(September 27, 2013 at 4:59 pm)John V Wrote: No, he said that if the majority believe in something, then that belief is not crazy. And he's correct.

False. Theists are crazy.

Quote:How many knocks did it take for the neighbor? One more than you are willing to give.

Dearest one,

How are you and your family today? I hope that you are all okay? I found information about you and decided to contact you for an important assistance. I am Jesus Christ a citizen of Heaven and the lord and savior of all mankind.

I am the only son of God the creator of all things who is perfect in every way. My Father is a bringer of Justice and a moving force in the cosmos, a part wanting to end the centuries of evil and wickedness. You will read more stories about the love and mercy of Our Father by reading 1 Chronicles 21:9-14 and Deuteronomy 22:23-24.

Here, is my reasons for contacting you, I need to spread the love of God to all around the world, for their own good. The Lord Our God is hidden in a safe place, where no instrument of science can ever detect Him. Though He is all-powerful, He cannot interact in any measurable or verifiable way with the material world, lest He destroy the faith of those who believe in Him.

I need your assistance in not sending you to Hell or Mississippi, so that I can arrange for all humankind to join me here in Heaven. I am willing to allow you to forsake your family, loved ones and all earthly pleasures, and offer me your undying love and undistracted dedication. Please, let me know if you can assist me, so that I can give you more details on how not to end up in Hell and subject to an eternity of the worst imaginable torture and torment upon your natural death. In exchange for your absolutely voluntary help, God will give you vague rewards after your natural death, again, so as not to destroy the faith of man. As I wait for your urgent response, please treat this information as top secret and keep A/S/King so that I can speak with you (never in a way anybody else will ever be able to verify, naturally). Thank you and God bless.

Regards,

Jesus, He who is Christ

(September 27, 2013 at 4:59 pm)John V Wrote:

(September 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: You seem to be stuck on the erroneous assumption that because the majority, millions of people, believe in something that what they believe in must be true.

No, he said that if the majority believe in something, then that belief is not crazy. And he's correct.

Lets see. Millions of people (probably the majority) believed:

In Witches.
In Slavery.
In the inferiority of the Black man.
In the inferiority of women.
That homosexuals molest children.
....

How long a list do you want?

(September 27, 2013 at 5:04 pm)max-greece Wrote:

(September 27, 2013 at 4:59 pm)John V Wrote: No, he said that if the majority believe in something, then that belief is not crazy. And he's correct.

Lets see. Millions of people (probably the majority) believed:

In Witches.
In Slavery.
In the inferiority of the Black man.
In the inferiority of women.
That homosexuals molest children.
....

How long a list do you want?

Well, bear in mind, these are all Christian beliefs, so odds are high that John believes in all these things.

(September 27, 2013 at 4:59 pm)John V Wrote:

(September 27, 2013 at 4:04 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: You seem to be stuck on the erroneous assumption that because the majority, millions of people, believe in something that what they believe in must be true.

No, he said that if the majority believe in something, then that belief is not crazy. And he's correct.

So mankind believing in slavery until the 18th century was not crazy, and treating women like shit until the 20th century was just fine, too? I beg to differ. Gay suppression doesn't sound crazy to many religious people now, but in 50 years, it will be seen as crazy. It's called evolution.