(October 2, 2013 at 10:13 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 10:03 pm)catfish Wrote: What you both mean to say...

Go fuck yourself.

Sorry, I meant "What the three of you meant to say..."

Dumbasses...

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(October 2, 2013 at 10:13 pm)Beta Ray Bill Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 9:45 pm)JeffB Wrote: Actually I'm not lying, I really am interested. I do believe I've read just about every one, and for the challenging ones, I've done some research to find explanations. Each time I walk away more encouraged by the creation model.

Just curious: Have YOU researched challenges to evolution?

Of course we have. Most of us used to be Christians. I've read the Bible more than once. Evolution explains far more than creationism. But if you are getting some sort of reward despite all we've posted, then I don't think you understand existence sans God, and that's a shame.

lol, just about every atheist makes the claim that they read the Bible several times. If that's true, why do they (you) get all bent outta shape when shown something they did not know? HMMMM?

Quote:What you both mean to say is that when you're shown to lack knowledge in the basics of the Bible, sling insults untill they're returned, then run away.

No, actually we do know the basics.

1. Assume first even before you get to the first word of that comic book.

2. Use the comic book to justify the starting naked assertion.

3. Default to cherry picking and circular reasoning.

4. Repeat

Now please explain to me how saying, for example

"Bullshit, the Yankees did not win the Superbowl"

Constitutes an "insult"? And exactly who has "run away".

And instead worrying about us calling your sky daddy names, you could pony up with some evidence which would surely shut us up. I don't have any desire whatever to "insult" facts. But I have no compunction in the least to ridicule absurd claims.

(October 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, actually we do know the basics.

1. Assume first even before you get to the first word of that comic book.

2. Use the comic book to justify the starting naked assertion.

3. Default to cherry picking and circular reasoning.

4. Repeat

Now please explain to me how saying, for example

"Bullshit, the Yankees did not win the Superbowl"

Constitutes an "insult"? And exactly who has "run away".

And instead worrying about us calling your sky daddy names, you could pony up with some evidence which would surely shut us up. I don't have any desire whatever to "insult" facts. But I have no compunction in the least to ridicule absurd claims.

Do I ever argue the existence of any god? Or do I debate what it actually written in the Bible?
This is what I meant when I said to address what's written, not what you imagine. Are you even capable of distiguishing what the "facts" are in this conversation?

(October 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm)catfish Wrote: Do I ever argue the existence of any god? Or do I debate what it actually written in the Bible?

Hold on, hold on. First, if you're going to appeal to the Bible as an authority for anything, then that entirely smacks of the notion that you hold a belief in god. For us to take your appeal to the Bible seriously (that is, to give a counterargument for your narrow biblical claims), then we must also hold the book to the same degree of authority that you apparently do. We don't, and that's because we don't believe in the god that it supposedly hails from. So we automatically dismiss anything you use as evidence when it comes from the pages of that book.

This is not done as a tactic to offend you, but instead it's to focus on the begged question: Is the assumed authority of this book (Yahweh) real? If he is, then we have every reason to listen to any passage you might want to throw our way. The existence of god is therefore your unspoken claim simply because you appealed to the Bible. To satisfy your demand that we listen to your Bible verses, you must first show that this god is real. However you manage that is up to you.

Or we could just be wasting our time because you may not actually believe in god, but the Bible just happens to be your favorite storybook, which is why you recite it so often and get pissy when people take issue with an interpretation of a word/verse/passage.

But shucks. What do I know?

Go fuck yourself.

(October 2, 2013 at 10:49 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm)catfish Wrote: Do I ever argue the existence of any god? Or do I debate what it actually written in the Bible?

Hold on, hold on. First, if you're going to appeal to the Bible as an authority for anything, then that entirely smacks of the notion that you hold a belief in god. For us to take your appeal to the Bible seriously (that is, to give a counterargument for your narrow biblical claims), then we must also hold the book to the same degree of authority that you apparently do. We don't, and that's because we don't believe in the god that it supposedly hails from. So we automatically dismiss anything you use as evidence when it comes from the pages of that book.

This is not done as a tactic to offend you, but instead it's to focus on the begged question: Is the assumed authority of this book (Yahweh) real? If he is, then we have every reason to listen to any passage you might want to throw our way. The existence of god is therefore your unspoken claim simply because you appealed to the Bible. To satisfy your demand that we listen to your Bible verses, you must first show that this god is real. However you manage that is up to you.

Or we could just be wasting our time because you may not actually believe in god, but the Bible just happens to be your favorite storybook, which is why you recite it so often and get pissy when people take issue with an interpretation of a word/verse/passage.

But shucks. What do I know?

Reading comprehension?
One simple question for you:
Do I argue reasons for accepting the Bible as an authority or against?

(October 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm)catfish Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 10:20 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, actually we do know the basics.

1. Assume first even before you get to the first word of that comic book.

2. Use the comic book to justify the starting naked assertion.

3. Default to cherry picking and circular reasoning.

4. Repeat

Now please explain to me how saying, for example

"Bullshit, the Yankees did not win the Superbowl"

Constitutes an "insult"? And exactly who has "run away".

And instead worrying about us calling your sky daddy names, you could pony up with some evidence which would surely shut us up. I don't have any desire whatever to "insult" facts. But I have no compunction in the least to ridicule absurd claims.

Do I ever argue the existence of any god? Or do I debate what it actually written in the Bible?
This is what I meant when I said to address what's written, not what you imagine. Are you even capable of distiguishing what the "facts" are in this conversation?

I don't care if you are debating the words in a Harry Potter novel, fiction is still fiction.

And again, even BEFORE you get to the word "In" as in "In the beginning", even before you get to that, you ARE starting with the naked assertion that a super natural being exists.

So argue the bible or Harry Potter or Gone With the Wind for all I care. None of those works of fiction makes your god or any god real.

Go fuck yourself.

http://www.gotatheism.com
All I've got to say

(October 2, 2013 at 10:54 pm)catfish Wrote: Reading comprehension?
One simple question for you:
Do I argue reasons for accepting the Bible as an authority or against?

Or you could be honest with us. We at least do that with you. Even Captain Colostomy is up front with you when he wants you to know to fuck off.