(October 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: In the book of Romans, God Almighty says that there is no excuse for not believing in the Creator.

Let me quote to you from the Book of Ryan:

Ryan 2:21: Fuck off, god wad.

Amen.

Now, the question becomes, will you obey this commandment of the Book of Ryan? Ryan says that he'll kick you in the throat if you don't, and that you're without excuse for not believing in Him.

Honestly, if Ryan kicks you in the throat, you're practically asking for it, if you don't fuck off.

Because, as it says in the Book of Ryan:

Ryan 1:1: I'mma kick you in the throat.

Amen.

*Kay raises a hand*

Can I join?

(October 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: In the book of Romans, God Almighty says that there is no excuse for not believing in the Creator.

Romans 1:19-20
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

The faith in Jesus Christ as the Saviour for your sins is a step beyond just believing there is a Creator.

You must believe that He died on the cross and paid for all your sins by His shed blood, that He rose from the dead, and that you have complete forgiveness of all sins and everlasting life just by faith in Him.

Many do not believe because they are self righteous and do not think they would not get to go to heaven.
Others think that you must earn it by works of some kind. But that denies the sacrifice of Jesus Christ as the complete payment for sins.

Is quoting scriptures at people you know don't believe they're true a thing now? Because I've been saving this gem up for the opportunity to bestow the prosperous blessings of Agni on somone:

HYMN I. Agni.
1 I Laud Agni, the chosen Priest, God, minister of sacrifice,
The hotar, lavishest of wealth.
2 Worthy is Agni to be praised by living as by ancient seers.
He shall bring hitherward the Gods.
3 Through Agni man obtaineth wealth, yea, plenty waxing day by day,
Most rich in heroes, glorious.
4 Agni, the perfect sacrifice which thou encompassest about
Verily goeth to the Gods.
5 May Agni, sapient-minded Priest, truthful, most gloriously great,
The God, come hither with the Gods.
6 Whatever blessing, Agni, thou wilt grant unto thy worshipper,
That, Aṅgiras, is indeed thy truth.
7 To thee, dispeller of the night, O Agni, day by day with prayer
Bringing thee reverence, we come
8 Ruler of sacrifices, guard of Law eternal, radiant One,
Increasing in thine own abode.
9 Be to us easy of approach, even as a father to his son:
Agni, be with us for our weal.

(October 3, 2013 at 5:09 pm)Kayenneh Wrote: *Kay raises a hand*

Can I join?

As it says in the Book of Ryan, 1:2: You better join, or your trachea 'on get bruised.

Don't worry though, because it also says, later on, in 6:4,497: All adherents of the Book of Ryan get free ice cream and pie anywhere, from any store. Just take it. People will understand.

Religion is easy

(October 3, 2013 at 4:49 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: In the book of Romans, God Almighty says that there is no excuse for not believing in the Creator.

So let him come down here and do something about.

You, on the other hand, can go fuck yourself.

I love it when these bastards quote scripture like we are supposed to give a shit. No wait. I hate it.

Yeah, like I give the bible any more credence than the Koran, Book of Mormon, or Dianetics. It's all a bunch of made up shit to me.

Quote: And thou shalt eat the fruit of thine own body, the flesh of thy sons and of thy daughters.--Deuteronomy 28:53

The bible says all sorts of weird shit. Doesn't mean I have to give a shit about anything it says.

and did I miss anything?

(October 3, 2013 at 2:44 pm)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 5:41 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Ok, SDP, let's run with this. You are saying, essentially, that complexity points to a creator. More, that complexity can only be explained by a creator. Would the creator, by definition, be more complex than its creation?

Not necessarily.

The Creator would be greater than His creation, but could be less complex.

Okay. Now we're rolling. Slowly, but there's definite motion.

So, leaving aside the irrelevant personal pronoun presuppositions (and the least said about the silly threats from your storybook the better... seriously, we're not all six years old), having allowed at least the possibility that complexity can arise from simplicity, what reason is there to suppose that a creator was necessary in the first place?

Don't bother throwing biblespam at me. Remember you've a long way to go yet before you establish your book as any kind of authority on the subject (indeed, on any subject, for that matter). We're talking gods, not books.

(October 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Don't worry though, because it also says, later on, in 6:4,497: All adherents of the Book of Ryan get free ice cream and pie anywhere, from any store. Just take it. People will understand.

I read this and all my brain saw through my perv filter was "cream ... pie". Where do I sigb up?