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And Hells come back to haunt me
#71
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 3:27 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(October 15, 2013 at 1:24 am)snowtracks Wrote: the main thing: make sure you don't end up in hell.

Why that hell does not even sound like a bad place really. Think of all the interesting people there, and imagine if it is a understandable universe, and with some of humanities greatest minds with nothing better to do then explore it, oh imagine the literature. Sure does sound better then heaven.

some want to be there that's true because it's a place where God's influence is withdrawn. the statement was actually in response to the thread originator that was concerned.

(October 15, 2013 at 2:23 am)max-greece Wrote:
(October 15, 2013 at 1:24 am)snowtracks Wrote: the main thing: make sure you don't end up in hell.

Proof there is no hell for me:

What would be my hell?

My hell would be to be stuck with people like Snowtracks or Gracie for eternity.

For this hell to exist however Heaven must exist and Snowtracks and Gracie would be there.

Therefore they can't be in hell with me.

Therefore there is no hell for me.

looks like someone got up on the wrong side-of-the-bed this morn.
Not good to have a cavalier, bravado attitude about the subject.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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#72
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
@snowtracks

The problem I have is that I just can't take Hell seriously. To me, it's like being threatened with the Avada Kedavra spell, or being on Santa's "naughty" list. I for the life of me can't see why anyone feels fear over it (except gullible small children). Try taking Santa's list seriously and you'll know how I feel. You just can't take it seriously, right?

I can't figure how a god who loves me would condemn me- or anyone- to eternal torture. I can't think of anyone bad enough enough to deserve ETERNAL torture. It's a punishment totally disproportionate to any crime- especially the crime of just not being able to believe in something. I could fake it (which is what Pascal's wager comes to), but if there really is a god, he'd know that, so why bother faking it?

I can see how an evil god would do such a thing, but even in that light I just can't get there. It's too fantastically counterintuitive. I'm more interested in spending the one life I know for sure I have well and fully, and finding good reasons for my actions.
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#73
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 11:51 am)Zazzy Wrote: I can see how an evil god would do such a thing, but even in that light I just can't get there. It's too fantastically counterintuitive. I'm more interested in spending the one life I know for sure I have well and fully, and finding good reasons for my actions.

Ahem.

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#74
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 1:24 am)snowtracks Wrote: the main thing: make sure you don't end up in hell.

That's not going to be a problem.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#75
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 11:13 am)snowtracks Wrote: Not good to have a cavalier, bravado attitude about the subject.

So, how seriously do you take the promise of an eternity in Valhalla?
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#76
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 3:27 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:
(October 15, 2013 at 1:24 am)snowtracks Wrote: the main thing: make sure you don't end up in hell.

Why that hell does not even sound like a bad place really. Think of all the interesting people there, and imagine if it is a understandable universe, and with some of humanities greatest minds with nothing better to do then explore it, oh imagine the literature. Sure does sound better then heaven.

What description of hell have you been feed to believe it's not bad. You say that you would met with interesting people and have literature to enjoy. You need to hear something closer to the truth, one can't read in the dark, one can't speak with others, they'll to busy complaining about their situation they made for themselves. Hell is a place full of hatred, selfishness, contempt for God and others, sadness, and ect. Also breakfast is not served in hell or any other meal, loneliness is a thing each will be able to enjoy in hell.

Smile GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#77
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: Hell is a place full of hatred, selfishness, contempt for God and others, sadness, and ect. Also breakfast is not served in hell or any other meal, loneliness is a thing each will be able to enjoy in hell.

Yes, and Valhalla is a majestic, enormous hall located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin.
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#78
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: What description of hell have you been feed to believe it's not bad. You say that you would met with interesting people and have literature to enjoy. You need to hear something closer to the truth, one can't read in the dark, one can't speak with others, they'll to busy complaining about their situation they made for themselves. Hell is a place full of hatred, selfishness, contempt for God and others, sadness, and ect. Also breakfast is not served in hell or any other meal, loneliness is a thing each will be able to enjoy in hell.

Smile GC

Which hardly matters, given that Sithrak shall be torturing us all, as my previous post surely demonstrates.
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#79
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 2:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Yes, and Valhalla is a majestic, enormous hall located in Asgard, ruled over by the god Odin.

Indeed, the place were all the brave live forever!
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#80
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
(October 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(October 15, 2013 at 3:27 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Why that hell does not even sound like a bad place really. Think of all the interesting people there, and imagine if it is a understandable universe, and with some of humanities greatest minds with nothing better to do then explore it, oh imagine the literature. Sure does sound better then heaven.

What description of hell have you been feed to believe it's not bad. You say that you would met with interesting people and have literature to enjoy. You need to hear something closer to the truth, one can't read in the dark, one can't speak with others, they'll to busy complaining about their situation they made for themselves. Hell is a place full of hatred, selfishness, contempt for God and others, sadness, and ect. Also breakfast is not served in hell or any other meal, loneliness is a thing each will be able to enjoy in hell.

Smile GC

Well actually that depends. You see since hell is only seperation from god, that won't be so bad since god never provided a meal nor does light come from him. Of course I was just going by the description given by snow tracks.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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