(October 16, 2013 at 9:06 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(October 16, 2013 at 9:03 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Why do doctors talk incessantly about cancer?

Because they secretly believe in it.

belief is not the issue Esquilax. They talk about cancer in the same context as atheist talk about 'god' ...... a disease that needs appropriate therapies and abolition

(October 16, 2013 at 9:11 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(October 16, 2013 at 9:06 am)Esquilax Wrote: Because they secretly believe in it.

belief is not the issue Esquilax. They talk about cancer in the same context as atheist talk about 'god' ...... a disease that needs appropriate therapies and abolition

Yup. I'm just bringing to light how ridiculous that whole "you really do believe in god, you just don't want to admit it!" line of reasoning is, since it so often comes up around this question of why we'd still talk about god. I dunno, it felt like it might come up in future, and I'm far too irritable to want to deal with that.

(October 16, 2013 at 9:15 am)Esquilax Wrote: Yup. I'm just bringing to light how ridiculous that whole "you really do believe in god, you just don't want to admit it!" line of reasoning is, since it so often comes up around this question of why we'd still talk about god. I dunno, it felt like it might come up in future, and I'm far too irritable to want to deal with that.

I think you and many other have come across the same problem I have met. If you are being kind to your (theist) opponent, by humoring him, talking about gods like they might exist, they ponce on you with an "Aha, you do believe in god!". If you on the other hand immediately take the stance that there's such a small chance that you'll probably never get proven wrong that there are gods, your opponent whines about how you're disrespectful and hate god in your heart. It's really a lose-lose situation.. '-_-

Quote:It's really a lose-lose situation.. '-_-

Because a theist's ideology is only thinking in win/lose

(October 2, 2013 at 3:32 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:

(October 2, 2013 at 3:21 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: Bible belt sucks at times.

Fixed that for you.

hahahahaha I know what that's like

(October 2, 2013 at 11:26 am)Minimalist Wrote:

Quote:Why do Atheists spend so much time debatng the existence of God?

Because morons - look in a mirror - keep coming here dropping their jesus shit on our carpet.

What makes you think that you have anything new to add? You are just the same old tired shit as all of your ilk.

Go blow jesus out your ass.

Um Minn, banning is what happens to us when we go to Christian websites, it isn't that they shitting on our carpet. The rules of this forum don't say Christians cant be here.

I want religious people here making their bad claims so we can have it out in the open where they can't hide and make excuses for keeping those bad claims.

But I do agree in the 12 years I have been on all sorts of websites, I have yet to see a theist add anything new that would give me pause. I do see time after time new or different versions of the same old arguments, and pealing back the onion to expose that is important.

Theists debate the existence of god(s), atheists just laugh at them.

I feel no need to be nice to the fucks, Brian. It isn't as if they have anything to say that isn't "jesus this and jesus that." Fuck jesus. I am tired of these sanctimonious twits who think they are superior because they have mental problems and believe in childish bullshit.

Fuck every last one of them.

Frankly I only debate this with people who try to convert me, and living in the bible belt of 'Murica it happens a good bit, or those that ask me about my religious views. As far as it being irrational and hypocritical to the "only life I have to live" business and it being a waste of time, please that's such bull.

Religion is a poison and the worst creation that man has ever wielded upon itself, if I can prevent the indoctrination of others around me that I care about by talking with them about the existence/non-existence of god then it's my ethical responsibility to do so. Their lives are important too, and they shouldn't live them under the shadow of a fairy tale.

(October 16, 2013 at 10:25 pm)Minimalist Wrote: I feel no need to be nice to the fucks, Brian. It isn't as if they have anything to say that isn't "jesus this and jesus that." Fuck jesus. I am tired of these sanctimonious twits who think they are superior because they have mental problems and believe in childish bullshit.

Fuck every last one of them.

I didn't say always be nice. But unless you live in a bubble you know theists that even if you hate their crappy claims, you get along with them to some degree.

Christainity isn't the only religion in the world, and you can find tribal beefs between Buddhists and Hindus or Buddhists and Muslims. Muslims and Jews or Muslims vs Muslims.

Japan and China have their superstitions as well and they are not exactly friends.

Humans ALL OF US are part of the same range of behavior, both good and bad, always have been, always will be. Hate the claim, bash the claim, ridicule the claim, I am fine with that. But civility isn't about force.

I hate religion, I do not hate all religious people because they hold positions I hate. My mother is Catholic and I do hate the fact she believes, but I don't say "fuck you mom". I lover her more than anyone in the world, even if I think her belief is bullshit.

Deal with reality the way it is, not the way you want it to be. It is good to vent and bitch, and religion does need a secular leash on it through scrutiny and blasphemy. But never think anymore than they can think, that we can totally rid the world of each other.