(October 16, 2013 at 12:45 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: If she says anything about "atheist origin science," that will be a dead giveaway.

That presupposes "no god" don't forget that.

(October 15, 2013 at 3:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: There are many string theories... don't forget.

if God, wouldn't it be reasonable that He would operate in a time dim or equivalent that's independent of the cosmic timeline? we do know that 3 spatial dim exist and another 6 or so probably do, so not unrealistic from just that information that another time dim exist or even necessary.

(October 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote:

(October 15, 2013 at 3:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: There are many string theories... don't forget.

if God, wouldn't it be reasonable that He would operate in a time dim or equivalent that's independent of the cosmic timeline? we do know that 3 spatial dim exist and another 6 or so probably do, so not unrealistic from just that information that another time dim exist or even necessary.

but if a time/space dimension interacts with another time/space dimension, it would measurable and knowable. Let alone if something existed within it.

Firstly; it's just science, not "atheistic" science. You just attach it to atheism because it doesn't back up your beliefs of your imaginary white-bearded friend in the sky.

Secondly; please do some research before you start spouting your ridiculous propaganda. Also learn the difference between scientific theory and conversational theory. A scientific theory is backed up by empirical evidence and rigorous testing and is subject to change once new information is introduced such as inflation, it wasn't just "added on".

(October 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote:

(October 15, 2013 at 3:40 pm)pocaracas Wrote: There are many string theories... don't forget.

if God, wouldn't it be reasonable that He would operate in a time dim or equivalent that's independent of the cosmic timeline? we do know that 3 spatial dim exist and another 6 or so probably do, so not unrealistic from just that information that another time dim exist or even necessary.

Would that be a god?
Or just a multi-dimensional being who could "draw" in 3D+1?

(October 16, 2013 at 3:43 pm)snowtracks Wrote: if God, wouldn't it be reasonable that He would operate in a time dim or equivalent that's independent of the cosmic timeline? we do know that 3 spatial dim exist and another 6 or so probably do, so not unrealistic from just that information that another time dim exist or even necessary.

It's weird that I keep having to tell you this, but handwaving generalities about weird cosmology stuff does not evidence make. You're just fantasizing.

Maybe we could come up with a slightly abbreviated term for this. Like g-string theory. I like the sound of that.

Why do you claim a "god" based on the existence of the Universe?

The problem is that the word "god" implies things that in no way are supported by the Universe being in existence at all.

The universe being in existence does not imply angels - devils - heaven - purgatory - hell - or virtually all of the basis of religion.

EVEN if a higher power were involved somehow in the beginning of all things - AT MOST - a being with the power of creation is ALL that could possible be supported - no more. The being could have ONLY that specific power - and have no other special powers. In fact - once created and set on its course - it is possible that the being no longer exists. Or - the big bang could be the destruction of that being too.

IN 2000 year - with almost unlimited funds - using the best techniques available - and with the best minds under its control - Xtianity has failed to come up with ONE testable and verifiable proof of a creator - much less a god. In fact - even if a higher power were involved - and I am not saying one did - THE MOST that would be needed would be a being with the power to start the process of Evolution - a single spark.

Now - if YOU have a way to support your religious nonsense based on that - I am still waiting to see it.

You know, why would God create the entire universe in the first place? Instead of wasting all that time & effort creating the universe and planet earth, then creating all the plants & animals, then creating humans with free will just so you can get pissed off at most of them, and then creating hell to send all the people who pissed you off to, then have to destroy the entire world in a final, apocalyptic battle between the forces of good and evil, why not just create Heaven as a happy place and all the good, righteous people who would have ended up there anyway and be done with it? No need for a global flood, no need for a hell, no need to create silly rules for people to follow and then get pissed off when they don't (even though you knew they wouldn't). No need for a blood sacrifice of your only son, no need for a final battle between your son Jesus and Satan since you wouldn't create Satan to begin with.

Like I've said before, God always does things far more convoluted and complicated than necessary.

(October 16, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: You know, why would God create the entire universe in the first place? Instead of wasting all that time & effort creating the universe and planet earth, then creating all the plants & animals, then creating humans with free will just so you can get pissed off at most of them, and then creating hell to send all the people who pissed you off to, then have to destroy the entire world in a final, apocalyptic battle between the forces of good and evil

Godly shit's n giggles?