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The Shutdown is over!
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The Shutdown is over!
... For now, at least. We can expect something similar to happen in a few months' time, though.

Quote:Washington (CNN) -- It's over. But just for now.

President Barack Obama signed a bill that ends the 16-day partial government shutdown and raises the debt ceiling, the White House said early Thursday morning.

Weeks of bitter political fighting gave way to a frenzied night in Washington as Congress passed the bill that would prevent the country from crashing into the debt ceiling.

Lawmakers worked precariously close to the midnight debt ceiling deadline amid warnings the government could run out of money to pay its bills if it didn't raise the debt ceiling.

Federal workers should expect to return to work Thursday morning, the director of the Office of Management and Budget said.

Director Sylvia Mathews Burwell said employees should check the Office of Personnel Management's website for updates.

Yosemite National Park said it was already resuming operations Wednesday night.

The GOP-led House gave the final stamp of approval to the Senate-brokered bill, passing it easily late Wednesday night. But it wasn't Republicans who made it happen; a majority of that party's caucus actually voted against the measure, which only passed because of overwhelming Democratic support.

A temporary bandage

The debt cushion now extends through February 7, with current spending levels being authorized through January 15.

That means a few months of breathing room, but little more. After all, the bill doesn't address many of the contentious and complicated issues -- from changes to entitlement programs to tax reform -- that continue to divide Democrats and Republicans.

"We think that we'll be back here in January debating the same issues," John Chambers, managing director of Standard and Poor's rating service, told CNN on Wednesday night "This is, I fear, a permanent feature of our budgetary process."

The heads of the Senate and House budget committees -- Democratic Sen. Patty Murray of Washington and GOP Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin -- will meet Thursday with an eye on addressing these budget divides. They'll helm budget negotiations intended to come up with a broader spending plan for the rest of fiscal year 2014, which ends on September 30.

Obama, for one, didn't seem in the mood Wednesday night for more of the same -- saying politicians in Washington have to "get out of the habit of governing by crisis."

"Hopefully, next time, it will not be in the 11th hour," Obama told reporters, calling for both parties to work together on a budget, immigration reform and other issues.

As he left the podium, Obama was asked whether he believed America would be going through all this political turmoil again in a few months. His answer:

"No."

Come together

The past 16 days of the partial government shutdown have come at a steep cost. Standard and Poor's estimated it took $24 billion out of the economy. The possibility of a debt default -- something that, Chambers pointed out, is gone for now but not entirely -- spooked investors on Wall Street and hiked interest rates.

And then there's the impact the ordeal had on politicians' image. If there's one thing polls showed Americans agreed on, it's that they don't trust Congress -- with Republicans bearing more blame than anyone else for what transpired.

Both sides talked past each other continuously, with Republicans insisting for a time that defunding, delaying or otherwise altering Obamacare must be part of any final deal. Democrats, meanwhile, stood pat in insisting they'd negotiate -- but only after the passage of a spending bill and legislation to raise the debt without unnecessary add-ons.

In the end, Democrats largely got what they wanted -- after some last-minute talks by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell.

"We've been able to come together for a lot of different reasons," said Reid, a Nevada Democrat.

Republicans did get a small Obamacare concession: requiring the government to confirm the eligibility of people receiving federal subsidies under the health care program.

But while some Republicans, such as tea party favorite Sen. Ted Cruz, claimed moral victories in energizing their movement, House Speaker John Boehner didn't pretend his side was the victor.

"We fought the good fight; we just didn't win," Boehner told a radio station in his home state of Ohio.

Boehner to fight another day

Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer of New York blasted Cruz and the rest of the tea party wing in Congress for what he called the "reckless, irresponsible politics of brinksmanship over the last few weeks."

"It was not America's finest moment," he said.

Markets soar on agreement

News of the deal brought some relief to Wall Street as well as Washington, with pressure to resolve the impasse building with the approach of the Thursday deadline to raise the debt ceiling or face default.

U.S. stocks rose on the news of an agreement, with the benchmark Dow Jones Industrial Average jumping more than 200 points on the day.

Reid hailed the agreement he worked out with McConnell as "historic," saying that "in the end, political adversaries put aside their differences."

McConnell fired an opening salvo for the budget talks expected to begin soon and continue until December when he said any ensuing spending deal should adhere to caps set in a 2011 law that included forced cuts known as sequestration.

"Preserving this law is critically important to the future of our country," McConnell said of the Budget Control Act, which resulted from the previous debt ceiling crisis in Washington.

The focus on an agreement shifted to the Senate after House Republicans failed on Tuesday to come up with a plan their majority could support, stymied again by demands from tea party conservatives for outcomes unacceptable to Obama and Senate Democrats, as well as some fellow Republicans.

Rep. Charles Rangel compares tea party in House to 'confederates'

Cruz, despite being in the Senate, is credited with spearheading the House Republican effort to attach amendments that would dismantle or defund the health care reforms known as Obamacare to previous proposals intended to end the shutdown.

All were rejected by the Democratic-led Senate, and Obama also pledged to veto them, meaning there was no chance they ever would have succeeded.

Republican Sen. Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire called the House GOP tactic of tying Obamacare to the shutdown legislation "an ill-conceived strategy from the beginning, not a winning strategy."

Seriously, we can expect another battle to raise the debt ceiling in a few months. However, I can't see things going well for Republicans in a year's time when elections roll around.
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#2
RE: The Shutdown is over!
Oh my god we actually avoided defaulting... for the moment. I'm god damn shocked right about now.
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#3
RE: The Shutdown is over!
I'm not. Twelfth-hour agreements are the norm now. What a power trip it has to be to know that you can fuck over millions of people with a shake or nod of your head! But it works best if you don't actually do it and keep the public on the edge of its collective seat.
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-Stephen Jay Gould
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#4
RE: The Shutdown is over!
Obviously the Republicans realized how shitty they look in front of the American people, otherwise they'd not have caved. They're too smart to realize that polls putting the blame for the shutdown on Republican shoulders translate into votes come next November and two years after that. They can only hope that voters forget who caused the shutdown and keep trying to blame Obama for it.
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#5
RE: The Shutdown is over!
And I don't really have much faith in the voters remembering. In a year they'll be busy playing with their iPhones and won't bother getting off their asses to vote because it is not a presidential election year.
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#6
RE: The Shutdown is over!
And Republicans get nothing to show for it all.

I can't wait for the circular firing squad sure to happen in the GOP ranks in short order.

"See what your brinkmanship got us?" screams the right wing of the GOP

"We'd have won if you hadn't caved, you wuss!" retorts the radical loopy right wing of the GOP
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RE: The Shutdown is over!
LOL. Borowitz.

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/bo...0%28184%29


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#8
RE: The Shutdown is over!
A fucking stay of execution. Those insolent pricks went all in with their garbage hand visible to everyone. I hope they get a what-fer from their constituents soon.
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RE: The Shutdown is over!
(October 17, 2013 at 10:42 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: "We'd have won if you hadn't caved, you wuss!" retorts the radical loopy right wing of the GOP

And, really, what would they have won? I mean, sure, they would have lost Obamacare, but, seriously, if they had really gone through with this, things would have led to an even greater economic recession/depression than the one they've been dealing with for the past few years. Where's the benefit? Maybe if they kept blaming Obama, but they've tried that and nobody fell for it. In fact, the more they do it, the more people blame them for it.
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(October 17, 2013 at 11:24 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And, really, what would they have won? I mean, sure, they would have lost Obamacare, but, seriously, if they had really gone through with this, things would have led to an even greater economic recession/depression than the one they've been dealing with for the past few years. Where's the benefit? Maybe if they kept blaming Obama, but they've tried that and nobody fell for it. In fact, the more they do it, the more people blame them for it.

The radical loopy wing on the GOP, also known as the Tea Baggers, doesn't think like that. Many of them were saying the default wouldn't be a big deal.

These are crazed religious fanatics. They'd have happily lit the fuse and burned it all down, dancing with joy they'd finally slain the evil gub-mint. Soon Ronald Reagan would descend from the skies bringing Randite goodies for all the makers. Or something. Who knows what goes on in their heads anymore? I'm done trying to figure them out.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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