There is also the funny that an airplane crashing into a building is so predictable to the milimeter, that none of the wiring (or made any of the preset bombs go off ahead of time) and conspiracy have failed.Wonderfull job they did, almost... godlike

(October 18, 2013 at 12:19 pm)professor Wrote: Conspiracy means to breathe the same air (con - with and spirit- breath). A closed session of politicians are never called conspirators. How come?

Most people don't want to commit the etymological fallacy as you just did.

You know Malala is doing a facepalm right now. "I got shot just so my fellow Muslims could look as bat shit insane as you."

No, the only conspiracy was done by your fellow Muslims lead by Bin Laden and committed by 19 hijackers. And you are talking to someone who fucking thinks Bush was a fucking idiot.

(October 18, 2013 at 10:46 am)Minimalist Wrote: I disagree. I've served on juries and eye-witnesses are highly overrated. A competent defense attorney can reduce them to blubbering piles of goo on the witness stand because most people are about as observant as a loaf of bread. The forensic evidence is always more damning.

Like I said, we have forensic evidence also. You ignored that for some reason and simply commented on the eye-witness thing. But, here they are once again:

A danish scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite in the WTC dust

New Proof 9/11 was an Inside job - Richard Gage


And you are right - forensic evidence is always more damning.

At this point it doesn't much matter.

Evidence is gone. Molten rivers of steel and exploding basements are hearsay and Bin Laden isn't going to pull a jesus. It's been over a decade since the whole thing went down.

I can't completely rule out the conspiracy theory either, but none of this debate makes a damn bit of difference now. Whether they did or they didn't changes nothing for me. They're all still a bunch of greedy criminals and it's not like I trusted our government before this happened anyway.

I propose we build the WTC again and fly two empty fuel loaded planes into them again.

That should shaddup things once and for all.

Of course, it would not change the fact that two fully loaded (of people) planes crashed into the original WTC towers KILLING EVERYONE ON BOARD and the people above the crash were CERTAIN TO DIE. Because, you know, fire and flames and all that jazz blocking their exit. Oh, and fires burn upwards.

No matter how you slice it, even if there were charges to bring the building down, the deaths were almost certainly assured as there were well over several thousand tonnes of steel and cement on a critically damaged structure just waiting to fall apart.

Either way, the intent of the 9/11 hijackers and Al Qaeda was to bring down the towers.

Intent + Attempt ==> crime and terrorist act.

You cannot divorce Al Qaeda from 9/11.

(October 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm)professor Wrote: No building in history that was a steel structure has ever gone down via a fire. The Empire state building was hit in the 40s by a bomber. It was repaired.
Jet fuel is close to kerosene in composition. It burns nowhere close to what is required to melt steel (I am a code welder. I know metal)

So what you're tellling me is that the government is smart enough and powerful enough to pull of an huge false flag operation in which they wired the towers with exploseives, either flew remote planes or convinced muslims to hijack planes, and were able to fool all of the media while no whistleblower was able to bring forth convincing evidence of this conspiracy, but they weren't smart enough to demolish the building in a manner that wasn't indicative of a fire bringing down the building? They pulled all that off but were so stupid that they couldn't do it in a manner that the average welder would see as false?

Please. This conspiracy shit is so ridiculous.

Faith, when there was NO investigation, no bomb sniffing dogs, and the steel was shipped out to China as fast as possible. I thought something is wrong here. Still in my memory was the murders of the Waco people.

Where I SAW the military tank flame shooter spraying fire into the wooden building.
Waco followed Ruby Ridge, where a home owner was set- up by feds and his home sprayed with bullets killing his wife and injuring his son.

Both of these events would be called Tyranny in times past. A word verboten in the media.
These same type of people (the ones who run this country) were involved in 911. Just like in the JFK assassination, observers were ignored or worse.
The CIA was involved with the Kennedy killings - why did it take 50 years for this to come out? Because dead people don't talk and people who know that don't talk..

Waco and Ruby Ridge are cases of extreme stupidity and recklessness, so to use them as an example to demonstrate a grand conspiracy behind 9/11 that would have taken extreme cunning and near flawless execution is ridiculous.

It's not that I don't think governments do evil things. I'm quite are that even the American government is responsible for some heinous atrocities, but that doesn't mean it was involved with this one.

Anyone want to take bets for when either the Rothschilds or NWO makes an appearance?