(October 18, 2013 at 5:59 pm)daandaan Wrote: The fact that life can only exist within a very narrow margin of the universe just serves to destroy ur point ..

No because if life could survive anywhere in any old chaos that happens to exist and it lived all over the place that would support the point that the universe doesn't have to be fined tuned for it. Create any old universe any way you like and you have complex life forming within it. But what you're saying about life being as restricted as it is would be a good argument for precise fine tuning, so you made the point for me.

Quote:now, while u r praying to eternity ...dont u think ur god will be mad at u comparing him with it and admitting u are and praying to false gods??

God would be angered by your spelling and lack of grammar. Get to school you mother, you need to get back in there.



A good education is where you start.

(October 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: God would be angered by your spelling and lack of grammar. Get to school you mother, you need to get back in there.

A good education is where you start.

So what if his first language isn't English? What, are you attacking peoples typing skills now?

Why do you presume to speak on behalf of your god, now? Isn't that, like, sinful? Are you elevating yourself up to your god's mouthpiece on the world now?

You must be very important.

(October 18, 2013 at 6:32 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: So what if his first language isn't English? What, are you attacking peoples typing skills now?

Typing ur instead of your is just a lazy ass way of typing you can't defend that.

Quote:Why do you presume to speak on behalf of your god, now? Isn't that, like, sinful? Are you elevating yourself up to your god's mouthpiece on the world now?

Sin of sloth, you can make an effort to type two extra letters.

Quote:You must be very important.

Everyone is to God.

Sword of Christ telling someone else they need to be educated. Now that is irony for you.

(October 18, 2013 at 6:22 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:

(October 18, 2013 at 5:59 pm)daandaan Wrote: The fact that life can only exist within a very narrow margin of the universe just serves to destroy ur point ..

No because if life could survive anywhere in any old chaos that happens to exist and it lived all over the place that would support the point that the universe doesn't have to be fined tuned for it. Create any old universe any way you like and you have complex life forming within it. But what you're saying about life being as restricted as it is would be a good argument for precise fine tuning, so you made the point for me.

Quote:now, while u r praying to eternity ...dont u think ur god will be mad at u comparing him with it and admitting u are and praying to false gods??

God would be angered by your spelling and lack of grammar. Get to school you mother, you need to get back in there.



A good education is where you start.

first u write a lot of bullshit ..to finish with ``But what you're saying about life being as restricted as it is would be a good argument for precise fine tuning, so you made the point for me.``

like why then are already millions of species extinct??
looks like it wasnt finetuned for them ..

and

WIKI The Andromeda–Milky Way collision is a galaxy collision predicted to occur in about 4 billion years between the two largest galaxies in the Local Group—the Milky Way (which contains our Solar System and Earth) and the Andromeda Galaxy.

it looks like ur god fucked up creating ``finetuned`` habitats ..hahahahaha

thank u for confirming my point ..



btw, ur god didnt make the universe,,,he made just the heavens and earth,,gen 1.1

that is, a flat earth covered by a dome over it , where the stars are candles attached to a curtain and where the sun and moon rest in a tent ..

god also had to construct a solid structure to keep the waters from above from crashing into his little kingom and god lives in a room on top of that dome , where his throne is situated...according to genesis

now, a non physical beeing as u claim doesnt need a throne to sit in ...

god uses the earth as his footstool (abraham 2.7).....a non physical beeing has no feet ....

Job 22:14 NRSV) Thick clouds enwrap him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the dome of heaven.’

god cant see..hahahahahahahahahaha

exodus 24 10 and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself.

like a non physical beeing needs a floor ???


and they saw the God of Israel;

now, what was u saying ??? non physical eternal outside of time and more of that stuff ???



now r u gonna pray to eternity ??

have fun.......

(October 18, 2013 at 5:50 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: If life could live anywhere in any conditions and could develop out of anything then the universe wouldn't have to be finely tuned for it would it?

If life was possible anywhere it might be a compelling argument in favor of god. As it stands, even large amounts of the planet we live on are inhospitable to some, most, or even all forms of life.

In any case, the idea of a universe needing to be fine-tuned in order to support life undermines the idea of a being powerful enough to create and tune the laws of the physical universe. If god spun it all off of his finger tips, why would he need to be so cautious about balancing those laws? Why is life only possible in a narrow band of finely-tuned rules for a being who can create men from the dust of the Earth and women from rib bones? Are you saying that if god moved one of the universe's tuning knobs just a few degrees to the right, he would be powerless to create life?

Look, if the fine-tuning argument is true, then god did not create the universe. At best, he stumbled upon a "build your own universe" kit that would only produce life if he assembled it properly. If god is the almighty creator of THE WHOLE UNIVERSE, then he wouldn't need to fine tune a single thing; he'd be able to produce life under any settings because he created the whole thing. Can we put this atrocious argument to rest, now? It's a really bad argument for god. Honest.

(October 18, 2013 at 6:32 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Why do you presume to speak on behalf of your god, now? Isn't that, like, sinful? Are you elevating yourself up to your god's mouthpiece on the world now?

Then again who would speak for his god if he didn't? It isn't as though any one has ever heard it speak or seen it. So anyone who wants can pretty much speak for it without fear of reprisal.

Indeed. Behold "God" - the absolute least powerful entity in every conceivable universe, totally incapable of doing or expressing anything by itself. Why, it's almost like it doesn't exist, isn't it!

By jove I think Stimbo is on to something!

(October 18, 2013 at 9:58 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Indeed. Behold "God" - the absolute least powerful entity in every conceivable universe, totally incapable of doing or expressing anything by itself. Why, it's almost like it doesn't exist, isn't it!

Well then thank the gods that "God" has such thoughtful, honest, and persuasive representatives and official mouthpieces as "He" has here! His pathological concern for my believing absurd Iron Age stories is evident every time I hear a believer bray. How better to convince me?

Of course I should take this shit seriously. My eternal soul is at stake. Know how I know? A Christian told me.