(October 28, 2013 at 2:43 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: No allusions there - he said it. Christians and non-Christians are all the same. We've even all admitted our weaknesses - how congenial of us.

Weaknesses? LMAO.

(October 28, 2013 at 2:37 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 2:14 pm)Drich Wrote: Do you have book Chapter and verse that Identifies 'gluttony' as a sin?

Gluttony is also defined as "greedy or excessive indulgence".

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gluttony

"greedy or excessive indulgence" is less than 1/4 of the defination? Why would you only repersent less than 1/4 of the complete defination to make your point.

Quote:Gluttony is an idol.

where does the bible make this conection? (B/C/V Please)

Quote:Idolatry is a sin.

well you got one right so far.

Quote:If one puts ANY earthly thing before god then he will inherit only punishment. Do you not know that your body is a temple....yadda yadda yadda. I'm sure the holy spirit just loves the donuts, burgers, cakes, fries, hot dogs, cheese, on and on and on....

The with B/C/V please show me that eating 'junk food is a sin.' Please show me using B/C/V that "your body is a temple" message has anything to do with the 'Bally's/fitness comercial you are referencing from the 80's.

Quote:Galatians 5:19-21 ESV
Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry,

Before you can use this verse in this way you must first establish gluttony is somehow idolarty.

Quote:sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness,

Here the word for drunkedness "methē" is apart from the greek word for glutton. In that it only means drunkedness. It has nothing to do with gluttony.
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexi...3178&t=KJV

Quote: (Isn't it only 'sinners' who wont inherit the kingdom of god?)

yuup. But again, unless you can establish gluttony as a sin then your whole arguement will be dismissed as basless attempt to persecute fat people.

Quote:Proverbs 23:20-21 ESV
Be not among drunkards or among gluttonous eaters of meat, for the drunkard and the glutton will come to poverty, and slumber will clothe them with rags.

(sure the above verse talks about the fiscal impact of over-indulging, but it clearly also lumps the two together into the same category).

Looks like another sunday schooler who missed the day they taught the difference between a PROVERB and a Law or command of God.

Quote:Seriously Drich, there are a fuckton of bible quotes that allude to the fact that ALL forms of gluttony are sin, and unfortunately I'm running out of pages to quote ever since I stopped buying toilet paper.

So where is this F-ton of quotes? Please dont tell me the two you mentioned were them?!?! Seriously, what else you got?

(October 28, 2013 at 3:17 pm)Drich Wrote:

(October 28, 2013 at 2:37 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: Gluttony is an idol.

where does the bible make this conection? (B/C/V Please)

Ex 20:3-4 (NIV) "You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below."


Phil 3:19 (NIV) "Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things."

There you go.

FFF, I'm not thin but I agree with you here, especially when it's some fat as fuck tv pastor in a Italian tailored suit with a rolex in a top notch air conditioned church asking for more money in HD.

Looks like an F-ton to me....(Lemon posted inbetween my 2 posts)

I can honestly say that's the longest post I've ever seen on this forum.

(October 28, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: FFF, I'm not thin but I agree with you here, especially when it's some fat as fuck tv pastor in a Italian tailored suit with a rolex in a top notch air conditioned church asking for more money in HD.

I'm not thin, but I'm nowhere near obese. I agree with you about the fatcat pastors and mega-church staffers. Again the entire point of this thread was to call out hypocrisy - I simply used obesity and gluttony as my platform in bringing the message.

PS

I think I may have stirred some of the heftier theist members with this one. Either that, or the holy spirit was using me yo confirm an already punctuated awareness. God gets the credit for every good idea it seems. Now let's see them practice the self-control they preach.

EDIT: to correct spelling errors theists wouldn't notice anyway.

Long post all right. I got to the eleventh entry - which was a duplicate of the sixth entry - which was a duplicate of the second entry.

(October 28, 2013 at 3:56 pm)John V Wrote: Long post all right. I got to the eleventh entry - which was a duplicate of the sixth entry - which was a duplicate of the second entry.

This one is easier to read John
http://atheistforums.org/thread-21687-po...#pid533585