(November 3, 2013 at 1:01 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I hear tons of things I disagree with.
I'd hardly call that "learning".

Perhaps she 'learned' that religion is horse shit by hearing tons of Christians that she disagreed with, all agreeing with the bible but somehow not with each other.


EDIT: spell correction

Quote:Satan doesn't torture people in hell, God does.

At least this one admits it. Most Christians will claim that God doesn't send anyone to hell, people choose to go there. Of course they forget that God set up the whole system which everyone defaults to hell unless they happen to choose Christianity as their religion and then follows a strict set of rules.

I did not imply the OP was 'dumb', but you just did, dear Drich. Your inability to mask your contempt merely proves yet again why you can't progress past the point in which you lie.

Again: if you have a point to be made in that 22pg thread then quote it. I'm merely trying to help you convey your message at the very least, adequately.

(November 3, 2013 at 1:01 am)Lion IRC Wrote: I hear tons of things I disagree with.
I'd hardly call that "learning".

LMAO

You christard!
We can actually add that to the list on the OP.

I've seen the case made for no specific timeline given in Genesis between creation and the Fall of Man before. You have to take the book as non-literal in some areas in order to accomplish this, which is an easy enough argument to make if you concede that the book was written by a Hebrew man who had limited knowledge of the world (I'm sure the world back then was basically just the general area of where they lived) and the whole different language thing. I believe Moses is actually credited with writing the first five books of the Old Testament. But in order to do that you have to say the bible is inspired by God which opens up a whole new can of worms. I'm getting off track, though.

The Garden of Eden being seen as a paradise and specialize as a kind of heaven or place where time moves more slowly makes sense at least in the context of the bible because of how much importance is put on man in getting back to paradise with God. Problem. You can't exactly separate man in the way you did because we did not evolve from monkeys, or apes. We share a common ancestor. Also, there are animals in the Garden that was with Adam and Eve. How do you account for the similar animals between the Garden and outside the Garden? And as for my third point, you make the common mistake of using the bible as the source to proving an account in the bible. That's like me saying Obama is building his own secret army and citing Fox News as a source. It just doesn't work.

But let's for a moment assume for sake of argument, there are two types of human beings in the world. One with a soul and one without a soul. How do you tell them apart? I mean, right now a Christian somewhere could be trying to convert a person who has no soul and won't be going to heaven anyway. Actually, a lot of believers right now could be wasting their time because they don't have a soul so they aren't going to see an afterlife, or any afterlife.

(November 3, 2013 at 1:53 am)Drich Wrote: The carbon crap is just revenue generating properganda. The planet yearly average temp is based on solar output and our proximity to the sun

I am a refrigeration Engeneer,

the only thing worse than a Harry potter book is a Harry potter movie. Not because of the witch craft but because of general bad writting and poor imagination suckiness.

kill Roy, buck Rogers, or dick Tracy.

The guy who can't even spell his OWN (purported) profession actually has the balls the criticize someone else's writing ? Hahaha.
Why that must be some "propERganda, right there.
And I'm a properganda "engeneer".

Seriously, this dude didn't "gradumatate" from Fifth Grade.

(November 3, 2013 at 10:40 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:

The guy who can't even spell his OWN (purported) profession actually has the balls the criticize someone else's writing ? Hahaha.
Why that must be some "propERganda, right there.
And I'm a properganda "engeneer".

Seriously, this dude didn't "gradumatate" from Fifth Grade.

I think he means he repairs refrigerators for a living, and just didn't want to give away his absolute lack of credibility.

(November 3, 2013 at 10:18 pm)ToriJ Wrote: But let's for a moment assume for sake of argument, there are two types of human beings in the world. One with a soul and one without a soul. How do you tell them apart? I mean, right now a Christian somewhere could be trying to convert a person who has no soul and won't be going to heaven anyway. Actually, a lot of believers right now could be wasting their time because they don't have a soul so they aren't going to see an afterlife, or any afterlife.

It depends on what you are looking for. Do you want answers, including your op? Or is this, and your op just observation, or bashing?

For the sake of argument, and "observation"... why couldn't your "Baptist" minister be a person w/o a soul? Just because he says he's religious doesn't mean he represents the entire Protestant establishment. Maybe he's a plant trying to keep you away from God? He certainly wouldn't get many people away from the Catholic religion! But, I'm sure you already knew all that [op hogwash] was atypical. Right?

If you are "bashing" in your [op].... more realistic and representative quotes and practices would at least inspire debate....but then maybe some humble pie on your part, for unjustified bashing? But you knew that. And it would've been boring too. Right?

Which brings us to "answers". If indeed you are looking for them. You have to think more like God. Throw out completely everything you know about religion, and man's involvement in it! There's a start.

Jesus said, "The kingdom is within." [and] "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."

Just.... You & God! Because, in the end? That's all there will be.