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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 9:26 am
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(November 10, 2013 at 8:10 am)Rationalman Wrote: So the only reason that you go through pain and discomfort is for more pleasure, fine. Well don't tell men to stop being pussys because your contraception method hurts too when it is not even necessary Look, rationalman, I've heard claims here of reproductive inequality. All these claims can be solved by great long-term birth control. Condoms are terrific and I applaud you for using them, but sooner or later one will break for many people, and many committed couples want another option- if condoms were that reliable then men wouldn't be making that claim. I have presented a reliable method. I'm not calling anyone a pussy if they don't want to use it (although I think you'd like me to do that because you want to dismiss my point); I'm pointing out that sometimes a little suffering happens to achieve something you want. If YOU don't want it, FINE. This isn't about YOU.
*Edit- And I use IUDs because they are the most effective birth control for women. The Pill (along with all hormonal methods) causes problems for many women, and is often rendered ineffective by things like antibiotics. Birth control isn't a walk in the park for women, either, even with all our options.
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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 12:48 pm
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All i'm really hearing here is: my choice of unnecessary contraception is painful and inconvenient, therefore men shouldn't complain about their possibly painful contraception method.
And just for the record, the chance of a condom breaking is very very small as demonstrated by this wonderful gif:
http://www.funnyjunk.com/condoms/funny-gifs/4877678/
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November 10, 2013 at 1:54 pm
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You can complain about it. You can try to encourage better options. But dismissing that option entirely because of pain, even though it will grant a degree of reproductive freedom, seems rather childish. You can avoid it for yourself all you want, but having a single form of male birth control on the market finally gives men a choice - and more choices are to follow as technology develops. I'm not saying lie down and deal with this one option, just don't deny it for others.
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November 10, 2013 at 3:01 pm
Best decision I've ever made regarding my reproductive choices. Now if only I'd done it three children earlier 
![[Image: images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRt3xhqF41--eOFtUg9n_I...u6YDn2QAS9]](https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRt3xhqF41--eOFtUg9n_I3cYHV8PHuHUwUMKgAQ9u6YDn2QAS9)
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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 3:11 pm
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A Vasectomy is often denied to younger, childless patients (although it is not impossible to find a doctor to do it, but it's difficult). That being said, I am happy you were able to take control of your reproduction :3
I hear it hurts like a motherfucker too!
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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 3:16 pm
(November 10, 2013 at 3:11 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: A Vasectomy is often denied to younger, childless patients (although it is not impossible to find a doctor to do it, but it's difficult). That being said, I am happy you were able to take control of your reproduction :3
I hear it hurts like a motherfucker too! I had the vas snipped before I was 30. It hurt a little (a bag of frozen corn is your friend), but not nearly as much as the boys hurt following hernia surgery!  hock:
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November 10, 2013 at 3:22 pm
Yeah that's pretty young to have one but the fact that you have three children means doctors wouldn't be as sketched to give ya one  and holy hell, balls hurt after hernia surgery!? WAT. That must have been awful.
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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 3:36 pm
(November 10, 2013 at 3:22 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Yeah that's pretty young to have one but the fact that you have three children means doctors wouldn't be as sketched to give ya one and holy hell, balls hurt after hernia surgery!? WAT. That must have been awful. What is interesting about the doctor who performed the procedure is that neither he nor his office had any way to confirm whether or not I actually had any children yet, and his office made no investigation, nor spoke with my wife.
The worst part about the boys after the hernia surgery other than the EXTREME pain and swelling (the blood from the surgery settles there and dissipates over three weeks), was tHe CoLoRs they changed 
TMI?
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November 10, 2013 at 3:58 pm
O.o I guess some doctors just don't give a fuck. And colorful balls! Well, that must have been a scary sight.
Not TMI for someone like me, I don't have a prudish bone in me body.
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RE: The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.
November 10, 2013 at 11:32 pm
Never let it be said that I dismiss or avoid male viewpoints:
From yesterday's (Sat 11/9) New York Times: an article on inequity in paternity leave.
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