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Why did God create the universe?
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 Quote:Why did God create the universe? The guy who came up with that story was originally going to have the universe coming out of a chickens cloaca, he couldn't get the imagery right though so he went for the grumpy old cloud bastard. I think it would have gone better if he'd persevered with the chicken story.
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Why would God even create the universe, and then create humans with a certain set of rules to follow, and those who don't follow the rules get burned and tortured for eternity instead of just creating Heaven with all the good souls who would have ended up there anyway? Why even bother with the complicated creation and eventual destruction of the universe, along with creating Satan and his demons and the eventual supposed battle of Armageddon between the forces of good and evil? If God's ultimate goal is to be surrounded by people who love and worship him for eternity, then why not just create them already in heaven and not mess with the universe, earth, hell, and have to kill billions of people for no good reason and then torture them for eternity?
I guess God doesn't think thinks through very well.
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 (November 11, 2013 at 2:02 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(November 11, 2013 at 1:55 am)Godschild Wrote: Why wouldn't a perfect being want to create, God wanted to create a universe and all it contained for His pleasure, does a perfect being not want to bring more pleasure to His life.No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect Like ChadWooters said,"love keeps on giving and never stops," you have a problem with prefect love I assume. Answer this, how do you know that a perfect being can't desire more, what is your bases for this reasoning? GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Copenhagen School  Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (November 11, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Godschild Wrote:(November 11, 2013 at 2:02 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: No because a prefect being is by definetion perfectly for fulfilled and therefore does not want anything. Wanting would mean he was unfulfilled and thus imperfect Because first off the god portrayed in the Bible is hateful and petty. And secondly to say that a perfect being wants something is a contradiction in terms. If he has a want then he is in someway unfulfilled and too say a being is perfect would mean that he is fulfilled in everyway possible.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. 
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You have some direct quotes from god there in your signature. Does god speak directly to you? ![[Image: giphy.gif]](https://media.giphy.com/media/FJovzGlbuoEXm/giphy.gif)
(November 11, 2013 at 5:20 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote: @Godschild In a way you could not understand. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Copenhagen School Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (November 12, 2013 at 5:04 am)Esquilax Wrote:(November 12, 2013 at 4:59 am)Godschild Wrote: In a way you could not understand. .. Your a sucker for punishment you know that. You already know what he will do.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. RE: Why did God create the universe?
November 12, 2013 at 5:06 am
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2013 at 5:07 am by Godscreated.)
(November 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(November 11, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Godschild Wrote: Like ChadWooters said,"love keeps on giving and never stops," you have a problem with prefect love I assume. Answer this, how do you know that a perfect being can't desire more, what is your bases for this reasoning? That's only your opinion, I disagree totally, now that we have expressed our opinions let's get on with the discussion. Who said He wants, I said He wanted to necessarily a big difference. Who said God was unfulfilled, As ChadWooters said, God desired to share His love with others, it wasn't a want it was and is a gift. GC (November 12, 2013 at 5:06 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote:(November 12, 2013 at 5:04 am)Esquilax Wrote: Try us. You right, you get the prize.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Lemonvariable72
Copenhagen School Religious Views: Its all bullshit to keep you handing money to the usher. (November 12, 2013 at 5:06 am)Godschild Wrote:(November 11, 2013 at 5:18 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Because first off the god portrayed in the Bible is hateful and petty. Exactly, a want and a desire are the same thing they are synonymous terms . Your the one saying God is unfulfilled because he has a desire. Thus imperfect. Please explain how a perfect being, that is fully fulfilled as precondition of being perfect has unfulfilled desires?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day, To the last syllable of recorded time; And all our yesterdays have lighted fools The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle! Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, That struts and frets his hour upon the stage, And then is heard no more. It is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing. |
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