(November 17, 2013 at 1:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Keeping something from working is not the same as something failing outright.

Well, this whole tolerance deal of Europe, especially, has done nothing but to anger the native populations of Europe, by constanty insulting their values, bringing in immigrants, and under the failure that is "multiculturalism", allowed them to live out their lives in Europe without requiring basic integration from them. Not to mention that these immigrants have contributed to the rise of crime and unemployment.
And now they(the countries of Europe) want us to embrace their values of tolerance, their false idols.
Just yesterday we have seen the humiliating effects of tolerance in my own country.
Tolerance is nothing more than a tool used by internationalists to deprive individual populations of their pride, by forcing them to accept things that they normally would not. Tolerance requires me to tolerate, and even support hostile actions of minorities, it requires me to tolerate treason, and even cherish it. If I support "freedom and tolerance", I must hate my country, I must hate my people, and I must hate my culture, I must bow before my enemies, I must ask for their forgiveness, and I must swallow my pride and my honor.
I must support their rights, while they want to walk over my rights.
When they freely express their desire to destroy my values, I must not defend my values, not by word, nor action, else I will be called a bigot.
Tolerance, eh?

"Values". What a laugh.

Yeah, your poor rights will be lost by giving others rights. Or something.

(November 17, 2013 at 1:38 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: "Values". What a laugh.

The whole concept of your tolerance is based on disrespect, actually. The insulted must tolerate those who insult.

I insult idiots who think killing those of other beliefs and ideals is right. You want to try again when assessing what my values are based on or do you want to make an ass out of yourself even more?

Quote:Yeah, your poor rights will be lost by giving others rights. Or something.

The only rights that are lost here is the right to respect, that of the majority.
They are instead given to the people who disrespect, to make them invulnerable. In the west, these are generally given to every kind of minority to grant them a privilage above the majority. It is not just.

Quote:I insult idiots who think killing those of other beliefs and ideals is right. You want to try again when assessing what my values are based on or do you want to make an ass out of yourself even more?

Oh, who said anything about killing?
I don't kill, nor do I advocate killing. As for "your" values, whatever they may be, as you're probably not the one to confer to collective values of the public, I made no reference to them.

Right of respect? That sounds stupid. You have every right to say what you want but we sure as hell don't have to respect you. Welcome to the world.

For a man with destruction and intolerance on the mind you're pretty quick to shrug off the burden of murder that your particular ideals beget. That's fine though. A clean turd is still a turd.

Those who disrespect entail no respect.

Those who are intolerant deserve little tolerance.

I fail to see the basis of Mehmet's diatribe.

(November 17, 2013 at 2:15 pm)Psykhronic Wrote: Right of respect? That sounds stupid. You have every right to say what you want but we sure as hell don't have to respect you. Welcome to the world.

Now thats the problem. Because these people do not have the right to say what they want to say, and hell, they do not reserve the right not to respect what others say or do. If the whole thing was based on mutual disrespect, I'd say okay. But its not so.

Quote:For a man with destruction and intolerance on the mind you're pretty quick to shrug off the burden of murder that your particular ideals beget. That's fine though. A clean turd is still a turd.

Really, we do not commit murder, but we do not respect people that openly mock and ridicule us, our national symbols, and our traditions. Even though murder is a bit too much, we still give them an answer the hard way if they choose to openly challenge us.

Quote:Those who disrespect entail no respect.

Those who are intolerant deserve little tolerance.

I fail to see the basis of Mehmet's diatribe.

Disrespect or intolerance is not something that is on our part. It was the liberals who have disrespected the traditions and national rights of the peoples of Europe, and did not tolerate those who objected. Instead, theirs was the tactic of intimidation. Political correctness in favor of the minorities.
But the majority is getting tired of this. You'll see more and more incidents like this one in the future.