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Abiogenesis is impossible
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible



Wow. Say snowtracks, does your helmet have a colorful chin strap?


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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(November 12, 2013 at 12:05 am)apophenia Wrote:


What in fuckstick's name is 'atheistism' ?



It's a belief that atheists really exist, obviously.
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(November 15, 2013 at 3:36 am)apophenia Wrote:


Wow. Say snowtracks, does your helmet have a colorful chin strap?



causal bike rider - no helmet, always with levis and rubber band on right pant leg.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(November 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm)snowtracks Wrote:
(November 11, 2013 at 4:34 pm)Chas Wrote: How are you interpreting 'information'? It's just chemistry.

this information is a set of instruction to do something. for instance, a skin scratch repairment: the proteins, blood, chem. needs to know the construction commands or else nothing happens. that's dna encoded infor.

dna nucleosome spooling (strands coil around a spool) has information storage density much greater than silicon chips. cell metabolism and replication functions need coded biological information to perform. without this information, chemistry is inert.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(November 19, 2013 at 12:42 am)snowtracks Wrote: dna nucleosome spooling (strands coil around a spool) has information storage density much greater than silicon chips. cell metabolism and replication functions need coded biological information to perform. without this information, chemistry is inert.

How does one scientifically measure "information," Snowy?
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Paging Dr. Dumbski.... paging Dr. Dumbski... Popcorn


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(November 19, 2013 at 12:42 am)snowtracks Wrote:
(November 11, 2013 at 7:51 pm)snowtracks Wrote: this information is a set of instruction to do something. for instance, a skin scratch repairment: the proteins, blood, chem. needs to know the construction commands or else nothing happens. that's dna encoded infor.

dna nucleosome spooling (strands coil around a spool) has information storage density much greater than silicon chips. cell metabolism and replication functions need coded biological information to perform. without this information, chemistry is inert.

What you deem to be information is simply the cumulative change of successful biochemical reactions.

The information is the memory of successful biochemistry.

There is nothing more.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(November 19, 2013 at 10:50 am)Chas Wrote:
(November 19, 2013 at 12:42 am)snowtracks Wrote: dna nucleosome spooling (strands coil around a spool) has information storage density much greater than silicon chips. cell metabolism and replication functions need coded biological information to perform. without this information, chemistry is inert.

What you deem to be information is simply the cumulative change of successful biochemical reactions.

The information is the memory of successful biochemistry.

There is nothing more.

first sentence under dna wikipedia - Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a molecule that encodes the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses.
so are you saying that's incorrect? or instuctions is not information?
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(November 20, 2013 at 8:54 pm)snowtracks Wrote: first sentence under dna wikipedia - Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a molecule that encodes the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses.
so are you saying that's incorrect? or instuctions is not information?

It's a metaphor, kitten.

If you think it's otherwise, and this information is a scientifically factual concept, then you can obviously show the method by which information can be accurately measured and scientifically quantified, yes?
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(November 20, 2013 at 9:08 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(November 20, 2013 at 8:54 pm)snowtracks Wrote: first sentence under dna wikipedia - Deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) is a molecule that encodes the genetic instructions used in the development and functioning of all known living organisms and many viruses.
so are you saying that's incorrect? or instuctions is not information?

It's a metaphor, kitten.

If you think it's otherwise, and this information is a scientifically factual concept, then you can obviously show the method by which information can be accurately measured and scientifically quantified, yes?

functionality would seem to a measure.
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