(December 3, 2013 at 8:24 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: I doubt that the atheist can ever explain something simply. All you atheist do is play games with semantics and hate on Christians who are trying to save you all from an eternity of hellfire. All you atheist spend so much time fantasizing about rape and snuff porn so maybe you think hell will not be that bad. I however have seen hell in nightmares when I was struggling with doubt years ago. The LORD loved me enough to send visions of hell to keep me. To keep me in his loving embrace. In hell people are tortured and burn in fire nonstop. Demons constantly rip people's wretched and filthy flesh from their bones, which quickly regenerates so they can endure the horrible ordeal they earned through sin over and over again for eternity. Please stop killing babies in abortion clinics and allow Jesus to enter you. You will no longer live wretched meaningless hedonistic lives at the cost to those who love you. I WILL PRAY FOR ALL THE ATHEIST.

And I in turn will do nothing of any consequence for you as well. Please try not to worry about how we suffer in your nightmares. They are your nightmares. We're fine.

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(December 3, 2013 at 9:15 pm)WashedinChristblood Wrote: That is not what I meant. I meant to allow Jesus to enter into your very being to cleanse you spiritually. You atheist have the most disgusting minds. Atheist will insult Christians when they aren't in power and like Stalin you will rape and murder when you have power.

Bugger off! You're suggesting I become as one with a fellow? Nothing wrong with that but I prefer the does. I'll leave your favorite buck to you.

Quote:Okay, this has already become stupidly retarded and self-refuting. What do you mean by 'laws'? The legal sense? If anything other than that, then it becomes nonsense. Does he reject the laws of thought? Self-refuting. Does he ignore his own moral positions? Meaningless. You can't reject everything, that's meaningless.

What do you mean by legal sense? If two men fight each other I am sure everyone of them has a legal sense to fight.
Laws of thought! Again when two men fight each other because of laws of thought!
When Obama wanted to bomb Syria and Putin stopped him who of the two had more legal sense and the laws of thought???

Quote:Contradiction. If he "rejected everything", as you just quoted Dostoevski as saying, then he had NO principles; he rejected them all.

Contradiction! If he rejected everything then he wouldn't be eating and would have died in a month so and no without drinking he would die even sooner! Contradiction!

Quote:This bit is a clusterfuck of more nonsense. It's exactly the same religious nonsense we hear from theists who are stupidly ignorant and/or arrogant, and wax on about the "darkness of atheism", and peddle ridiculous nonsense like the above. Dostoevski can't even keep his story from contradicting, and even if he did, it becomes nothing more than value-ladden nonsense and pompous superiority - with no justification - mixed with straw manning and projection.This is why I find it nonsensical when theists show up here with questions like "what is the atheist position on X?"

Do you believe in afterlife?

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(December 3, 2013 at 6:03 pm)TaraJo Wrote:

(December 3, 2013 at 12:47 pm)DOS Wrote: In plain English tell you what? What's the point regarding what? You disagree with Dostoevsky and find a fallacy in the text/quote of his? What's the point since you don't understand in asking me what's the point?

Simply this: it sounds to me like you're one of those guys who likes to go around and use complex words and phrases in an attempt to make himself sound smart. To me, it sounds like even you don't understand what Dostevsky is saying, but you're going to agree wth it since it speaks well of theists. Me, I'd like to see if you can live up to the standards Al here sets:



So, can you explain, simply, what he means?

Why did you put up the picture of Einstein?

"Dostoevsky gives me more than any scientist, more than Gauss." - Albert Einstein.

Simple enough?

(December 3, 2013 at 3:06 am)DOS Wrote: "There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. He rejected everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. He died; he expected to go straight to darkness and death and he found a future life before him. He was astounded and indignant. 'This is against my principles!' he said. And he was punished for that... that is, you must excuse me, I am just repeating what I heard myself, it's only a legend.....blah blah
The Brothers Karamazov by Fedor Dostoevsky

There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. She accepted everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. She died; she expected to go straight to heaven and she found nothing. She would have been astounded and indignant. She had wasted the only life she had on worshipping a non-existent deity.

The Lesbian Sisters Licksagirloff by Max Goodman

(December 4, 2013 at 2:59 am)max-greece Wrote:

(December 3, 2013 at 3:06 am)DOS Wrote: "There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. He rejected everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. He died; he expected to go straight to darkness and death and he found a future life before him. He was astounded and indignant. 'This is against my principles!' he said. And he was punished for that... that is, you must excuse me, I am just repeating what I heard myself, it's only a legend.....blah blah
The Brothers Karamazov by Fedor Dostoevsky

There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. She accepted everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. She died; she expected to go straight to heaven and she found nothing. She would have been astounded and indignant. She had wasted the only life she had on worshipping a non-existent deity.

The Lesbian Sisters Licksagirloff by Max Goodman

Excuse me what do you mean by she found nothing? How is it possible?

(December 4, 2013 at 3:02 am)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 2:59 am)max-greece Wrote: There was, they say, here on earth a thinker and philosopher. She accepted everything, 'laws, conscience, faith,' and, above all, the future life. She died; she expected to go straight to heaven and she found nothing. She would have been astounded and indignant. She had wasted the only life she had on worshipping a non-existent deity.

The Lesbian Sisters Licksagirloff by Max Goodman

Excuse me what do you mean by she found nothing? How is it possible?

Good point. Badly worded trying to stay as close as possible to the original text.

"She died; she expected to go straight to heaven and there was nothing to be found."

Works a bit better. Thanks.

(December 4, 2013 at 3:13 am)max-greece Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 3:02 am)DOS Wrote: Excuse me what do you mean by she found nothing? How is it possible?

Good point. Badly worded trying to stay as close as possible to the original text.

"She died; she expected to go straight to heaven and there was nothing to be found."

Works a bit better. Thanks.

To believe that you will find nothing it's a faith!


"Atheism merely preaches a negation"
The idiot by Fedor Dostoevsky

(December 4, 2013 at 3:25 am)DOS Wrote: To believe that you will find nothing it's a faith!

False. No faith is required to accept what knowledge we possess in terms of truth. There is no credible evidence for an afterlife. Therefore, it is logical to assume there is no afterlife.

(December 4, 2013 at 3:28 am)Kitanetos Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 3:25 am)DOS Wrote: To believe that you will find nothing it's a faith!

False. No faith is required to accept what knowledge we possess in terms of truth. There is no credible evidence for an afterlife. Therefore, it is logical to assume there is no afterlife.

Excuse there is no evidence as of yet that you will die soon!!! No evidence! But you will be dead very soon - fact!

(December 4, 2013 at 3:40 am)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 3:28 am)Kitanetos Wrote: False. No faith is required to accept what knowledge we possess in terms of truth. There is no credible evidence for an afterlife. Therefore, it is logical to assume there is no afterlife.

Excuse there is no evidence as of yet that you will die soon!!! No evidence! But you will be dead very soon - fact!

Nonsense. There is plenty of evidence that we will all die at some point - mainly that everything living appears to do so. There is no evidence of anything happening thereafter.

(December 4, 2013 at 3:40 am)DOS Wrote: Excuse there is no evidence as of yet that you will die soon!!! No evidence!

Yes, there is evidence. It is called a finite body. Mortality, if you wish.