Chuck

Quote:You don't believe fairy, lepricons, and jins exist, or don't know?

I have no problem if the fairy, lepricons and jins exist! I don't give a thought or shit whether they exist or not and I'll be fine if u prove me they do really exist.
I am talking bout afterlife, God, soul here...

(December 4, 2013 at 9:12 am)DOS Wrote: The believer don't claim, they believe or know.

Calling a pile of shit a rose doesn't keep it from stinking.

"believers" reek of deception and self-deception, to the point where they conceive that by the mere shifting of a word they can distract attention from that overpowering stench.

KichigaiNeko

Quote:Science probably WON'T demonstrate the existence of these things, but may be able (currently) to tell you WHY you THINK you feel these things.

Science as well can tell you why you don't believe in God, afterlife, soul...

Don't believe is not equal to know for sure.

(December 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm)DOS Wrote: Chuck

Quote:You don't believe fairy, lepricons, and jins exist, or don't know?

I have no problem if the fairy, lepricons and jins exist! I don't give a thought or shit whether they exist or not and I'll be fine if u prove me they do really exist.
I am talking bout afterlife, God, soul here...

There is no hope for you DOS is there?

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(December 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm)DOS Wrote: Chuck
I have no problem if the fairy, lepricons and jins exist! I don't give a thought or shit whether they exist or not and I'll be fine if u prove me they do really exist.
I am talking bout afterlife, God, soul here...

There is no hope for you DOS is there?

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There is no hope for you as you put jins and lepricons in the same category with God.

(December 4, 2013 at 12:16 pm)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 12:12 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:

There is no hope for you DOS is there?

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There is no hope for you as you put jins and lepricons in the same category with God.

Read your reply AGAIN идиот

(December 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm)DOS Wrote: Chuck

Quote:You don't believe fairy, lepricons, and jins exist, or don't know?

I have no problem if the fairy, lepricons and jins exist! I don't give a thought or shit whether they exist or not and I'll be fine if u prove me they do really exist.
I am talking bout afterlife, God, soul here...

Put aside your inclination towards self-indulgent wish thinking.
Your ideas about afterlife, God, soul are completely equivalent things to fairy, lepricons and jins in terms of how these concept came to be, what widespread psychological weaknesses of humans they happen to exploit to remain in popular culture, and how non-existant are the evidence and support for their reality. If you don't care about fairy, lepricons and jins, and think their reality has no impact on you, then you have no more intellectually rigorous reason to care about afterlife, God, soul. The only thing that makes you dismiss one and revolve your life around the other is the fact you, in your self-indulgent and self-delusional way, find afterlife, God, soul more suited for further indulgence of even more self-delusions.

There is nothing that can be "known" in the sense of it being the received truth from above the collective human capacity for rigorous analysis of accessible evidence. But one could make a probability assessment of the likelihood of something being true in light of carefully evaluated and validated lines of evidence. The latter is the maximum extend of any real "knowing".

To not "know" in this second, rigorous, sense and still claim to know is the height of self deception.

So I don't know, in the self-deceptive sense of "knowing" that you use, that afterlife, God, soul does not exist. But I know in the rigorous sense of evidence that reasons to believe in the reality of afterlife, God, soul is insignificant. It would intellectually criminal to act as if there are significant likelihood of their reality for that infinitesimal possibility to be acted upon.

So put down your Doztoevsky, and pick up a study of scientific thinking. It won't make you feel profound in a self delusional way, but it will make what you say much more likely to be true.

(December 4, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 12:06 pm)DOS Wrote: Chuck
I have no problem if the fairy, lepricons and jins exist! I don't give a thought or shit whether they exist or not and I'll be fine if u prove me they do really exist.
I am talking bout afterlife, God, soul here...

Put aside your inclination towards self-indulgent wish thinking.
Your ideas about afterlife, God, soul are completely equivalent things to fairy, lepricons and jins in terms of how these concept came to be, what widespread psychological weaknesses of humans they happen to exploit to remain in popular culture, and how non-existant are the evidence and support for their reality.

There is nothing that can be known is the sense of it being the received truth from above collective human capacity for rigorous analysis of accessible evidence. But one could make a probability assessment of the likelihood of something being true in light of carefully evaluated and validated lines of evidence. This is the maximum extend of any real "knowing".

To not know in this rigorous sense and still claim to know is the height of self deception.

So I don't know in the self-deceptive sense of "knowing" you use that afterlife, God, soul does not exist. But I know in the rigorous sense of evidence that reasons to believe in the reality of afterlife, God, soul is so insignificant that it would intellectually criminal to act as if there are significant likelihood of their reality for that possibility to be acted upon.

So put down your Doztoevsky, and pick up a study of scientific thinking. It won't make you feel profound in a self delusional way, but it will make what you say much more likely to be true.

You put jins, lepricons and God in the same boat again?
Scientific thinking haven't come closer one inch regarding question of God, afterlife, soul.

(December 4, 2013 at 12:25 pm)DOS Wrote:

(December 4, 2013 at 12:19 pm)Chuck Wrote: Put aside your inclination towards self-indulgent wish thinking.
Your ideas about afterlife, God, soul are completely equivalent things to fairy, lepricons and jins in terms of how these concept came to be, what widespread psychological weaknesses of humans they happen to exploit to remain in popular culture, and how non-existant are the evidence and support for their reality.

There is nothing that can be known is the sense of it being the received truth from above collective human capacity for rigorous analysis of accessible evidence. But one could make a probability assessment of the likelihood of something being true in light of carefully evaluated and validated lines of evidence. This is the maximum extend of any real "knowing".

To not know in this rigorous sense and still claim to know is the height of self deception.

So I don't know in the self-deceptive sense of "knowing" you use that afterlife, God, soul does not exist. But I know in the rigorous sense of evidence that reasons to believe in the reality of afterlife, God, soul is so insignificant that it would intellectually criminal to act as if there are significant likelihood of their reality for that possibility to be acted upon.

So put down your Doztoevsky, and pick up a study of scientific thinking. It won't make you feel profound in a self delusional way, but it will make what you say much more likely to be true.

You put jins, lepricons and God in the same boat again?
Scientific thinking haven't come closer one inch regarding question of God, afterlife, soul.

Now you have demonstrated clearly that you are a Poe/ Troll/ идиот/ дурак

away with you...you are меньше грязи

(December 4, 2013 at 12:25 pm)DOS Wrote: You put jins, lepricons and God in the same boat again?
Scientific thinking haven't come closer one inch regarding question of God, afterlife, soul.

So what? The fact that science hasn't let you "know" in that self-deceiving way of yours doesn't mean thinking wishfully as you do is any less self-deceiving.