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Re: RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 11:37 am
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(December 6, 2013 at 10:52 am)Sleepy Wrote: It's a sin and not permissible for a wife to refuse her husband for sex and not permissible for a husband to refuse sex to his wife either.
It's part of the marital contact. Is it unethical and a sin if he forces himself upon her and harms her. But there is no legal punishment.
The key is to remember sex is to be exclusive between husband and wife and wife or husband denying each other sex is an illogical concept unless one is injured, hurt, or some other serious problem So raping you wife is perfectly fine, and Islam in fact does sexually objectify women to the extreme? Thanks for clearing that up. Thankfully, here, while women are still objectified, our vaginas are our own and rape is a crime.
Sometimes people just don't want sex, you know.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 11:40 am
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Actually I said its unethical and a sin upon the husband if he does so, I don't know where you got "perfectly fine" from but being deceitful is already a part of your nature.
There's no legal punishment as sex is perfectly ok and legal between husband and wife.
If the husband said I don't want to have sex with his wife. This in fact injustice as well for the wife as being married entails sex between the couple. It comes with being married. If the wife said it is is also injustice for the man.
There's no legal ramifications for something that is entailed within a marital contract. Something that is a huge part of marriage.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 11:53 am
So imagine this scenario for me sleepy:
The couple are lying in bed
The guy gets horny and wants to have sex
The woman doesn't want to, she has a headache, she's on her period, whatever
She refuses
The husband doesn't listen and instead forces himself on her
That is frowned upon but not illegal? That isn't how it works in a marriage. There are no rules in marriage that says you get your free will taken away when your partner wants to have sex.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 11:55 am
And remember, Islam doesn't objectify women like the evil west.
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December 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm
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Ideally a person should respect his wife. The Prophet, his family, and companions never forced themselves or hurt any woman.
In the Quran if Allah said you can say no to having sex with your spouses.Things would be very different and strange. Saying no for no reason doesn't have any standing as you are husband and wife.
If the wife is ill, hurt than it the husbands to take care of the wife and cherish her.
By a spouse, husband or wife refusing to have sex is infringing on the others rights within the marriage as they are married by a contract where sex is exclusive to them. If husband or wife denies than it is wrong unless the person is ill or hurt.
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December 6, 2013 at 12:04 pm
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Sex is not "fine" if it doesn't involve two consenting adults. Fuck that.
If a man puts his dick in a woman when she doesn't want him to, that is rape.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 12:05 pm
(December 6, 2013 at 10:52 am)Sleepy Wrote: It's a sin and not permissible for a wife to refuse her husband for sex and not permissible for a husband to refuse sex to his wife either.
It's part of the marital contact. Is it unethical and a sin if he forces himself upon her and harms her. But there is no legal punishment.
The key is to remember sex is to be exclusive between husband and wife and wife or husband denying each other sex is an illogical concept unless one is injured, hurt, or some other serious problem
Where does it say in the quran that a woman has to give sex to her husband?
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 12:07 pm
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(December 6, 2013 at 12:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Ideally a person should respect his wife. The Prophet, his family, and companions never forced themselves or hurt any woman.
In the Quran if Allah said you can say no to having sex with your spouses.Things would be very different and strange. Saying no for no reason doesn't have any standing as you are husband and wife.
If the wife is ill, hurt than it the husbands to take care of the wife and cherish her.
By a spouse, husband or wife refusing to have sex is infringing on the others rights within the marriage as they are married by a contract where sex is exclusive to them. If husband or wife denies than it is wrong unless the person is ill or hurt. No it is not. It is my decision to have sex or not. Basically what telling us is that marriage in Islam is legalized rape. And you called the west evil for music videos.
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Not wanting to have sex is a reason for not having sex you dumb fuck
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RE: Islam IS the true religion of humanity.
December 6, 2013 at 12:12 pm
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It's not rape because they're married. They both got into a contract to exclusively have sex with each other. If a husband or wife forces another to have sex there is no emotional or physical trauma. Though it is unethical it is a sin upon the person doing the forcing. There is no legal punishment though
"My husband raped me"
" my wife raped me ". Sex is natural between married couples. Rape is between in consenting person with no relationship to rapist.
Not wanting to have sex has no standing within marriage as the marriage agreement is that you will have sex with another. Not for one spouse to say no I'm good. Don't get married than if you plan on refusing your spouse unless you're sick or hurt
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