Fuck normal, weird and un natural are much more fun.

19, engage in a bit of girl on girl action and you'll feel a whole lot more relaxed.

You might even get that giant dildo out of your ass.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: Why I'm "agressive" and "idiot" ? Because I'm not agree with you ?

No, but thank you for engaging in yet another trad deflection tactic: you're... actually, I should say passive aggressive, because your main tactic for debate seems to be locking out anyone you can't deal with. You're an idiot because rather than actually learning anything- or seemingly even looking at the evidence we're providing- all you give back is blanket denials fit to reinforce your existing beliefs irrespective of the reality. You talk a big game about politeness and discourse, but you're one of the biggest liars here; you'd have to be, to continue denying that what we've given you even exists. For all the respect you demand of us, you won't even do us the courtesy of intellectual engagement.

Quote:But in this forum , you generally insult me and this is an indication of your characters . If you want to be friend with me and discuss with me , the first thing you need to learn is to speak without insults in a proper manner . We could be opposite sighted and this is not a obstacle for me to eat my lunch together with you or spending a Sunday afternoon with you .

I don't insult you because you believe things I don't. I insult you because dishonesty drives me batty, I have no patience for it, and when you wage this campaign of one sided discourse where everyone who provides you with evidence is either blocked or outright ignored, you become just one more lying conman cloaking themselves in the pretense of having a legitimate point.

Let's be clear: I've also engaged you on the topics you've brought up, provided scientific evidence and logical arguments to back up my claims. Can you produce a single post in which you've done more than blandly assert things, as though fiat declaration carries as much weight as proper psychological study by the top minds in the world?

Quote:I wont be mercifull about this issue . The persons in ignore list will stay there forever . And Esquilax , you're in ignore no more , maybe not in list , but in my mind . Salaam .

But I think this is what bugs me the worst, this idea you have that our discourse requires your imprimatur to function. It's just crazy, how you come here with this cloak of being reasonable and wanting discussion, and then promptly transforming the entire forum into your own personal echo chamber by blocking any who even remotely challenge you.

It's not smart, and it's not reasonable: it's sad that you'd rather restrict yourself to only the things that reinforce what you already believe, rather than exposing yourself to anything new.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: Why I'm "agressive" and "idiot" ? Because I'm not agree with you ?

No, because you're being aggressive and idiotic.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: Actually I'm the last person in this world who can be defined as aggressive ,

Then behave like it, because no-one would be able to get that impression from your posts. Since that is the face you chose to share with us, you can hardly complain when people treat you as aggressive.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: I'm a quiet person generally and I dont oppose anyone as long as they dont do crazy things . Maybe this is why I have lots of friends from different parts of world with different back grounds .

Maybe. It could be argued that this is inconsistent with your being a Muslim though. Doing crazy things seem to be part of the game.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: But in this forum , you generally insult me and this is an indication of your characters .

An impartial observer would note that the insults generally didn't begin until you threw the first stone and said something that attracted them.

(December 18, 2013 at 5:22 am)Nineteen Wrote: If you want to be friend with me and discuss with me , the first thing you need to learn is to speak without insults in a proper manner .

Are you talking to yourself there? Because I, at least, tried to do that right from day one and ended up being slapped down for trying to discuss with you. Maybe you should take a leaf out of the book of the other person called Nineteen, the one who wrote the above comment. And stop using your ignore list as a petulant childish weapon; yeah, that's some healthy, proper discussion right there!

Oh, and can we also talk about the irony of Nineteen getting all arch about me insulting her, when the whole content of her discussion thus far has been to call me and a number of people I care about unnatural, disordered and sick? Or, as the pot said to the kettle, "you are black."?

Fair's fair, Nineteen. You didn't start this conversation on very polite footing, now did you?

(December 17, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Sure about that?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
The manner of behavior from nineteen seems consistent witga traditional interpretion of al taqiyya and given her support for sleepy I say nineteen is definitely shia and avoiding my question.

I'm not from any sect . There is no such a thing in islam as "sect" , something completely invented later . Originally I'm from a "sunni" family and I have defined myself as a "sunni" until the day I started to make my own decisions .

(December 18, 2013 at 7:31 am)Nineteen Wrote:

(December 17, 2013 at 9:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Sure about that?
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya
The manner of behavior from nineteen seems consistent witga traditional interpretion of al taqiyya and given her support for sleepy I say nineteen is definitely shia and avoiding my question.

I'm not from any sect . There is no such a thing in islam as "sect" , something completely invented later . Originally I'm from a "sunni" family and I have defined myself as a "sunni" until the day I started to make my own decisions .

Nineteen, you are the first to use the word sect. That aside, even you will find it hard to deny there are different branches or interpretations of Islam, such as Sunni and Shi'ite? This is as much a fact as anything really can be. These interpretations may not be the same as yours or even compatible with yours, but people do have them. Lots and lots of people.

(December 18, 2013 at 7:31 am)Nineteen Wrote: I'm not from any sect . There is no such a thing in islam as "sect" , something completely invented later . Originally I'm from a "sunni" family and I have defined myself as a "sunni" until the day I started to make my own decisions .

So close, yet so blinded to grasp what's in front.

Quote:Islam IS the true religion of humanity.

It must be awful being human.

(December 18, 2013 at 9:01 am)Duck Wrote: Nineteen, you are the first to use the word sect. That aside, even you will find it hard to deny there are different branches or interpretations of Islam, such as Sunni and Shi'ite? This is as much a fact as anything really can be. These interpretations may not be the same as yours or even compatible with yours, but people do have them. Lots and lots of people.

Sects consist due to hadiths , not Quran interpretation . Allah clearly forbids in Quran to believe other things except Quran . Big part of muslims defines themselves in a sect and this situation does not change this is a big mistake . Also a large part of the people believed that the earth was flat and they had killed who say its round . Almost the same thing .

What you're doing at the moment is you deny the world's roundness .

Hmmm. Someone who does not want to talk about the internal problems of Islam. I guess the outsiders should never know.

Islam has many different sects and branches for interpretations. The internal forces want to kill each just as much as the outsiders. You cannot deny this history. I am sorry if you are blind to the faults for the religion. We are not easily fooled. Islam has done much internal harm to followers.