(December 19, 2013 at 6:12 am)rasetsu Wrote:

(December 19, 2013 at 1:55 am)snowtracks Wrote: book - The Large Scale Structure of Space-Time - hawking and ellis - "Einstein's General Theory of Relativity leads to two remarkable predictions: first, that the ultimate destiny of many massive stars is to undergo gravitational collapse and to disappear from view, leaving behind a 'black hole' in space; and secondly, that there will exist singularities in space-time itself. These singularities are places where space-time begins or ends, and the presently known laws of physics break down. They will occur inside black holes, and in the past are what might be construed as the beginning of the universe. To show how these predictions arise, the authors discuss the General Theory of Relativity in the large. Starting with a precise formulation of the theory and an account of the necessary background of differential geometry, the significance of space-time curvature is discussed and the global properties of a number of exact solutions of Einstein's field equations are examined". from - http://books.google.com/books/about/The_...gG_KI7Ll8C

This isn't even Hawking or Ellis writing, but looks to be nothing more than a publisher's blurb about the book. This isn't even remotely acceptable evidence of Hawking and Ellis' views on what preceded the big bang. God, you're a douche bag. Googling for hits with keywords and mining quotes is not science, it's the ethically challenged bollocks of the religious apologist with no brain and even less scholarship.

(December 19, 2013 at 12:01 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(December 18, 2013 at 11:56 pm)snowtracks Wrote: even while you're chortling (which i don't mind) about evil spirits, maybe you can still learn something about them. these supernatural (and as such: not limited the the physics of our 4 dim's of space and time) created entities are fallen angels that are under the control of satan and their major purpose is deception; aka, false religions. their exact numbers in not known but they consist of 1/3 of the angelic realm. their final destiny is hell along with satan, the future antichrist and false prophet.

I see you want the chortling to continue: that's good, because the best way to keep it up is to continue rambling on about the magic time travelling capabilities of demons, while providing zero evidence for them. Assertions heaped atop assertions does not evidence make.

Quote:shame [sheym]
noun
1. the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, ridiculous, etc., done by oneself or another: She was overcome with shame.

(December 19, 2013 at 9:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: that stubborn point of singularity which conotes creation just won't go away, and consequently the atheists are frantically resorting to cosmological metaphysical speculations that they think somehow can be slipped under the radar but it's not working - an 'a' for effort though.

(December 19, 2013 at 9:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: that stubborn point of singularity which conotes creation just won't go away, and consequently the atheists are frantically resorting to cosmological metaphysical speculations that they think somehow can be slipped under the radar but it's not working - an 'a' for effort though.

Quote:"I see you want the chortling to continue: " didn't say that but makes no differents either way.

(December 20, 2013 at 12:00 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(December 19, 2013 at 9:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: that stubborn point of singularity which conotes creation just won't go away, and consequently the atheists are frantically resorting to cosmological metaphysical speculations that they think somehow can be slipped under the radar but it's not working - an 'a' for effort though.

The stubborn lack of evidence for a creation just won't go away, and so consequently snowtracks is frantically resorting to making the same assertion over and over again, that he thinks can somehow be slipped under the radar as a replacement for evidence- an 'f' for effort though, you arrogant little shit.

Quote:"I see you want the chortling to continue: " didn't say that but makes no differents either way.

Yeah, the only thing that's going to make a difference is you coming up with either some evidence, or some humility. I don't see either happening.

(December 20, 2013 at 9:12 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: How are you trying to help? How can what you have been saying, help in any way, shape or form?