Islam = Judaism for everyone. Thoughts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_...etary_laws

Circumcision

Mythology:
- Judaism from Isaac
- Islam from Ishmael

All Jewish prophets are Muslim prophets

Obsessed with Jerusalem

Prophet Mohammed tried to get Jewish human beings to convert by saying everyone would pray towards Jerusalem.

Segregation by sex.

Islam is a copy of judaism/christainity so none of his is at all surprising.

Islam has better (after)death benefits, however.

Not surprised by any of it.

(December 22, 2013 at 10:09 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: Islam has better (after)death benefits, however.

They had to attract followers somehow.

Islam came approx 700 years after Christianity. They copied much from an religion which already had plenty of followers.

Truth be told, though.....as silly as the origin stories for islam and judaism are it takes a real asshole to accept the xtian version.

(December 22, 2013 at 10:54 am)Minimalist Wrote: Truth be told, though.....as silly as the origin stories for islam and judaism are it takes a real asshole to accept the xtian version.

And at least the Jews and Muslims aren't mucking about trying to rationalize nonsense like the Trinity. When they say one god, they fucking mean it.

(December 22, 2013 at 5:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Islam is a copy of judaism/christainity so none of his is at all surprising.

Someone would create a mediocre book by copying an excellent book , but cannot create an excellent book by copying an mediocre book/books .

Bible , Torah and Quran includes similarities because all of them was sent by Allah and two of them have been changed in time due to different causes .

(December 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm)Nineteen Wrote:

(December 22, 2013 at 5:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Islam is a copy of judaism/christainity so none of his is at all surprising.

Someone would create a mediocre book by copying an excellent book , but cannot create an excellent book by copying an mediocre book/books .

Bible , Torah and Quran includes similarities because all of them was sent by Allah and two of them have been changed in time due to different causes .

What is your evidence that any of these were 'sent by Allah'?

And what about the Book of Mormon? Do you have evidence that it wasn't?

(December 22, 2013 at 3:32 pm)Nineteen Wrote:

(December 22, 2013 at 5:57 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Islam is a copy of judaism/christainity so none of his is at all surprising.

Someone would create a mediocre book by copying an excellent book , but cannot create an excellent book by copying an mediocre book/books .

You can create an excellent book by killing anyone who says it isn't excellent. Reverse argumentum ad populum.


Truth is, all books are "copies" of other books. If excellent books weren't created by creative borrowing from literature and culture, there would be no excellent books, nor any literary traditions to make recognizable literary devices like plots, tropes, and so on. Someone once said that a good artist borrows, a great artist steals. If these books weren't based on prior literary forms, they wouldn't be recognizable as literature. All languistic creations are built out of the stuff of prior use of language. To say otherwise is to be stupid, or a clueless 19 year old, mindlessly repeating apologetic cliches.

Are the Tao Te Ching and Sun Tzu's Art of War divine? If not, then how did these excellent works occur? If you're arguing that all great artistic works are signs of god, then that's just lame, and an insult to great artists. (Not to even mention that the Koran isn't so much unique and excellent as just badly written.)