(January 16, 2014 at 2:47 pm)truthBtold Wrote:

(January 16, 2014 at 2:43 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: Methinks he missed the point...

Cant start unless we can define what we r talking about.. they start with "I believe in god" ok.. thats fine. Define god and we go from there.. u get this point?

Woah... you posted between me and the Carlin interjection that completely dodged your question. I was talking about Severan there.

(January 16, 2014 at 2:53 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:

(January 16, 2014 at 2:47 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Cant start unless we can define what we r talking about.. they start with "I believe in god" ok.. thats fine. Define god and we go from there.. u get this point?

Woah... you posted between me and the Carlin interjection that completely dodged your question. I was talking about Severan there.

I see that .. sorry..

There's no sound argument or evidence for the existence of any deity. That's about it, but isn't it enough?

(January 16, 2014 at 2:42 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Define god physically, no attributes please!

That doesn't make sense, for anything. Define an object without giving it any properties. Go on.

(January 16, 2014 at 3:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: There's no sound argument or evidence for the existence of any deity. That's about it, but isn't it enough?

The opposite counters that....in the end, no one wins in philosophical debates....you just get the guy who's the bigger douche who claims he wins because the other guy gets bored with the whole bullshit.

(January 16, 2014 at 10:44 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:

(January 16, 2014 at 2:42 pm)truthBtold Wrote: Define god physically, no attributes please!

That doesn't make sense, for anything. Define an object without giving it any properties. Go on.

A God - all loving, all powerful, wisdom, just... those are attributes. .
A chair- legs, 4 , usually wooden, a platform, to but ur rear on, a backing to lean against.. thats usually wood.... u wouldn't say god has gray hair on a cloud pointing a finger??

There is no single argument that would work for all theists. Using a logical argument to convince someone who doesn't pride themselves on being logical is tricky.

You've got to make their logical conclusion sneak up on them. A lot of religious folks, like most of the religious members on this forum, will simply shut down mentally when their mind starts to stray there. Their false beliefs in a magical sky daddy is too precious for them to put down their mental barriers and accept facts.

I'm pretty sure if there were one argument to put the whole thing to rest, greater minds that those on these forums might have already come up with it.

Not that you aren't all brilliant.

(January 16, 2014 at 11:08 pm)truthBtold Wrote:

(January 16, 2014 at 10:44 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: That doesn't make sense, for anything. Define an object without giving it any properties. Go on.

A God - all loving, all powerful, wisdom, just... those are attributes. .
A chair- legs, 4 , usually wooden, a platform, to but ur rear on, a backing to lean against.. thats usually wood.... u wouldn't say god has gray hair on a cloud pointing a finger??

Dude, did you even read my post? I said define an object without giving it properties, becuase you said to 'define God physically, no attributes please'. It's not possible to do so. Defining anything entalis giving it attributes.

(January 16, 2014 at 10:57 pm)Polaris Wrote:

(January 16, 2014 at 3:23 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: There's no sound argument or evidence for the existence of any deity. That's about it, but isn't it enough?

The opposite counters that....in the end, no one wins in philosophical debates....you just get the guy who's the bigger douche who claims he wins because the other guy gets bored with the whole bullshit.

i like how you curse and are christian