(March 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Wait. This is going to be an actual 'debate' thread in another section? Ok. I didn't realize we can do that, here. Cool. :=)

Yea lol...it is over in the philosophy forum.

(March 6, 2014 at 9:16 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Wait. This is going to be an actual 'debate' thread in another section? Ok. I didn't realize we can do that, here. Cool. :=)

Yea lol...it is over in the philosophy forum.

And people go one on one with topics? I'll have to check it out. I bet it's your favorite subforum. haha :p

(March 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Yes yes yes, and according to the Bible, mankind has only been living for oh....7000 years or so? (basing that on the lineage from Jesus to Adam) lol Charles Darwin, what a stinker. He fucked everything up for Bible believers. :p

Darwin has messed nothing up for me. I do not think mankind has only been living for seven thousand years. Nor do I know of any apologist that will tell you that you can determine how long mankind has existed by utilizing Jesus's geneaologies!

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(March 6, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Deidre32 Wrote:

(March 6, 2014 at 9:16 pm)discipulus Wrote: Yea lol...it is over in the philosophy forum.

And people go one on one with topics? I'll have to check it out. I bet it's your favorite subforum. haha :p

Yes they can, if it is still open. Check it out when you're free. That is what I have been referring to all along when I offered this invitation.

(March 6, 2014 at 9:21 pm)discipulus Wrote:

(March 6, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Deidre32 Wrote: Yes yes yes, and according to the Bible, mankind has only been living for oh....7000 years or so? (basing that on the lineage from Jesus to Adam) lol Charles Darwin, what a stinker. He fucked everything up for Bible believers. :p

Darwin has messed nothing up for me. I do not think mankind has only been living for seven thousand years. Nor do I know of any apologist that will tell you that you can determine how long mankind has existed by utilizing Jesus's geneaologies!

lol Save your silly responses for your debate. (and yes they do, those who deny the theory of evolution)

Quote:Yes they can, if it is still open. Check it out when you're free. That is what I have been referring to all along when I offered this invitation.

Oh, I wondered...'debate a Christian.' I'm like. so? lol
Okay...

(March 6, 2014 at 8:58 pm)discipulus Wrote: We are not talking about Islam. To bring it up would be a red herring.

Hardly. You'd like to think that whatever historical evidence there may be points to just one conclusion. Islam for one is another alternative interpretation for anyone who thinks historical records lead to gods.

(March 7, 2014 at 12:21 am)whateverist Wrote:

(March 6, 2014 at 8:58 pm)discipulus Wrote: We are not talking about Islam. To bring it up would be a red herring.

Hardly. You'd like to think that whatever historical evidence there may be points to just one conclusion. Islam for one is another alternative interpretation for anyone who thinks historical records lead to gods.

I believe the historical evidence indeed points to one conclusion i.e. that Jesus Christ is God incarnate. No where in any of my posts have I stated that the Bible is the only historical record that speaks about matters pertaining to religion.

With regards to Islam being an alternative interpretation to the Bible regarding certain events, I joyfully agree with you that it is an alternative interpretation and in one key area, flat out contradicts what is recorded in the NT regarding Jesus's death.

If my argument was that the Bible is the only religious text that contains historical accounts of religious subjects then mentioning Islam as a rebuttal would be appropriate. Since I have never stated this, bringing up Islam is simply irrelevant to what I am arguing.

I pointed out Islam to illustrate that it is another version of religious "truth," just like the Christian one. The only thing both have in common is they are not stemming from reality. Truth isn't what you pretend it is, truth just IS.

If this is how you are going to debate, count me out. Acting naive. You know why I brought Islam up. :/

(March 7, 2014 at 10:58 am)discipulus Wrote: I believe the historical evidence indeed points to one conclusion i.e. that Jesus Christ is God incarnate.

Please, do present your historical evidence.
A debate with an agree upon topic seems to be far from feasible, now...
So, just open a standard thread on the christianity sub-forum and show us the facts you have.
Clearly, you are in the possession of something we are not aware of, so why delay presenting it to everyone?!

Wait... I gotta sit for this one....