(March 19, 2014 at 8:34 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: I think Religion is bullshit to the extent that people bicker and fight because some book said this or that or these people don't believe what I do and if they don't, they will suffer for eternity of wailing and gnashing their teeth.

Much in the fashion of Thomas Paine you are following. He concluded that if God wanted to author a book it would have no flaws and if he had to give a message to the world he would do so himself.
I love religious texts and I use them a lot but they are not truthful in the slightest bit. Much like philosophical works or theological discourse I regard them as the same.

Quote:IF you believe someone, or something, or some angel is looking out for you and hears your petition, and it is not making you bigoted, judgmental, or self-righteous, it can be very healthy, lead to a change of heart, and a better life. I believe some people do have a relationship with a higher power (GOD) but not the Religious fanatics and bigots.

I could not agree more

Who the Hell is Frodo?

(March 19, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Who the Hell is Frodo?

This guy, who posts on here regularly (including in this thread):

(March 19, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Thunder Cunt Wrote: Who the Hell is Frodo?

This guy, who posts on here regularly (including in this thread):

(March 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm)tor Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Good can only exist if bad also exists. The universe couldn't function without both. Creation (assumed) was a positive force. Opposing creation is destruction > evil > negative forces.

Therefore God is good.

Doesn't show that God is good either. Also good can't exist without bad is complete bullshit.

Yes it does. So your logical objection can be reduced to "oh no it isn't".

The bible doesn't agree with the Qur'an.

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(March 19, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 10:54 am)fr0d0 Wrote: They're states of happiness.

When you're doing stuff that enhances life, you're in heaven. When you do stuff that harms you, you're in hell.

Fr0do, I'm actually glad you say this because it's a far more sensible interpretation of the Christian message IMHO. But c'mon, do you really believe this is how most of the New Testament writers interpreted heaven, hell, and salvation...as merely spiritual states that only apply to our presence on Earth?

I know that's what they're saying, yes. But not "only" for our presence on earth.

(March 20, 2014 at 2:15 am)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 8:25 pm)tor Wrote: Doesn't show that God is good either. Also good can't exist without bad is complete bullshit.

Yes it does. So your logical objection can be reduced to "oh no it isn't".

The bible doesn't agree with the Qur'an.

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(March 19, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Fr0do, I'm actually glad you say this because it's a far more sensible interpretation of the Christian message IMHO. But c'mon, do you really believe this is how most of the New Testament writers interpreted heaven, hell, and salvation...as merely spiritual states that only apply to our presence on Earth?

I know that's what they're saying, yes. But not "only" for our presence on earth.

Where else? Mars?

(March 19, 2014 at 6:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:31 pm)shep Wrote: er, do you believe non believers go to hell?

Non believers in this sense are those that reject good. So of course they deserve just punishment.

That's different to those lacking belief, because they aren't rejecting good.

Are you saying there exist Nonbelivers and People who lack a belief? Aren't they one and the same?

shep

Wouldn't you agree that one denies God and one has no intentions about God either way?

How can you be rejecting good if you didn't realise it's presence? In law ignorance = guilt. In true justice, ignorance is innocence.

(March 19, 2014 at 2:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Diseases have the right to life too. Humans are a disease.

"Took the words right out of my mouth."

frodo why did god create humans?