Still entertaining this clown huh?

78 pages and counting. Snowtracks, do you feel you've been fighting the good fight for your lord and saviour?

(March 19, 2014 at 6:46 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Still entertaining this clown huh?

78 pages and counting. Snowtracks, do you feel you've been fighting the good fight for your lord and saviour?

I'd have given up after 50 pages.

(March 19, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: brandon carter pretty much put the kibosh on naturalistic evolution when he calculated the odds that other intelligent being exist in the U.
"In a very interesting research paper published in 1983, physicist Brandon Carter calculated the probability for a species as technically advanced as human beings to have developed from a microbial species in ten billion years or less. The odds are 10^-24,000,000. This result completely rules out the possibility of any extraterrestrial intelligence arising anywhere in the Universe but also the impossibility of human life arising from any naturalistic means." Source: Carter, Brandon, “The Anthropic Principle and its implications for Biological Evolution”, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A 310, pp- 347-60. (1983).

these odds demonstrate improbability that intelligent life arouse on

Have you studied and verified his calculations? His methodology?

I certainly mistrust this result from 30+ years ago as we now have much more information on how many planets there may be in the universe.

What an incredibly presumptuous assertion this thread's title makes. Who in the world could possibly be in a position to know whether or not abiogenesis is impossible? Science can not show that. We're sure not going to buy any modern apologist's interpretations of the ramblings some ancient goatherds as evidence. Poppycock.

(March 19, 2014 at 5:37 am)Tonus Wrote: What are the odds that a god who was very active and interactive with people on Earth would decide to make himself impossible to detect just before human record-keeping started to become somewhat reliable and before methods of detection became so sophisticated?

God is revealed thru nature and revelation; God's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

(March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 5:37 am)Tonus Wrote: What are the odds that a god who was very active and interactive with people on Earth would decide to make himself impossible to detect just before human record-keeping started to become somewhat reliable and before methods of detection became so sophisticated?

God is revealed thru nature and revelation; God's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

1. Allah is revealed thru nature and revelation; Allah's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

2. FSM is revealed thru nature and revelation; the FSM's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, all-noodly, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

When you can tell me why you don't believe 1 & 2 then you'll have a good idea as to why we regard what you just said as a giant heap of bollocks.

(March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 5:37 am)Tonus Wrote: What are the odds that a god who was very active and interactive with people on Earth would decide to make himself impossible to detect just before human record-keeping started to become somewhat reliable and before methods of detection became so sophisticated?

God is revealed thru nature and revelation; God's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

Given these attributes, would you say "God exists in the minds of his followers to understand God's universe" is accurate?

(March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: God is revealed thru nature and revelation; God's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

Great, so since god isn't revealed through the five senses, you've eliminated the only possible methods of detection you have with which to know he's there at all, and are therefore in possession of an unjustified belief.

(March 20, 2014 at 5:24 am)Esquilax Wrote:

(March 20, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: God is revealed thru nature and revelation; God's attributes and identity are not discovered by the 5 senses since He is all-powerful, all-knowing, and everywhere-present --- "whom no one has seen or can see".

Great, so since god isn't revealed through the five senses, you've eliminated the only possible methods of detection you have with which to know he's there at all, and are therefore in possession of an unjustified belief.

Could the sixth sense be the one.... I see dead people.... could that be jesus

(March 19, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: brandon carter pretty much put the kibosh on naturalistic evolution when he calculated the odds that other intelligent being exist in the U.
"In a very interesting research paper published in 1983, physicist Brandon Carter calculated the probability for a species as technically advanced as human beings to have developed from a microbial species in ten billion years or less. The odds are 10^-24,000,000. This result completely rules out the possibility of any extraterrestrial intelligence arising anywhere in the Universe but also the impossibility of human life arising from any naturalistic means." Source: Carter, Brandon, “The Anthropic Principle and its implications for Biological Evolution”, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A 310, pp- 347-60. (1983).

these odds demonstrate improbability that intelligent life arouse on

So, this universe that couldn't have happened on it's own and must have been created by a deity because it is so fine tuned for life.....
...can't generate, life.