(March 13, 2014 at 1:01 am)snowtracks Wrote: the production of a new animal species in nature has yet to be documented;

So you admit that the creation story is false?

(February 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(February 22, 2014 at 7:57 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Can SoCs sudden disappearance have anything to do with the demands for a debate? I wonder.....

He can wait as long as he wants: I'm not going anywhere, and more importantly, I'm not going to forget.

you won't hold your end; you're not as important nor as smart as you think you are, and boring to boot.

(March 14, 2014 at 12:50 am)snowtracks Wrote:

(February 22, 2014 at 12:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: He can wait as long as he wants: I'm not going anywhere, and more importantly, I'm not going to forget.

you won't hold your end; you're not as important nor as smart as you think you are, and boring to boot.

I'm still here, and the challenge is still open. You could take it up, if you weren't such an insipid little coward.

One who apparently couldn't actually respond to my rebuttal of his last argument, and so had to resort to "you're dumb!" too.

brandon carter pretty much put the kibosh on naturalistic evolution when he calculated the odds that other intelligent being exist in the U.
"In a very interesting research paper published in 1983, physicist Brandon Carter calculated the probability for a species as technically advanced as human beings to have developed from a microbial species in ten billion years or less. The odds are 10^-24,000,000. This result completely rules out the possibility of any extraterrestrial intelligence arising anywhere in the Universe but also the impossibility of human life arising from any naturalistic means." Source: Carter, Brandon, “The Anthropic Principle and its implications for Biological Evolution”, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A 310, pp- 347-60. (1983).

these odds demonstrate improbability that intelligent life arouse on

(March 19, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: brandon carter pretty much put the kibosh on naturalistic evolution when he calculated the odds that other intelligent being exist in the U.
"In a very interesting research paper published in 1983, physicist Brandon Carter calculated the probability for a species as technically advanced as human beings to have developed from a microbial species in ten billion years or less. The odds are 10^-24,000,000. This result completely rules out the possibility of any extraterrestrial intelligence arising anywhere in the Universe but also the impossibility of human life arising from any naturalistic means." Source: Carter, Brandon, “The Anthropic Principle and its implications for Biological Evolution”, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A 310, pp- 347-60. (1983).

these odds demonstrate improbability that intelligent life arouse on

http://neilenglish.net/the-sceptical-ast...n-part-ii/

"Do you believe in biological evolution? If so, why? Do you have the necessary cognitive tools to assess the theory? Are you equipped with the latest knowledge that enables you to critically appraise the theory in light of new research findings?

In this article, you will see me build up, block by block, evidence that raises legitimate arguments against the theory of evolution, as promulgated by biologists."

The next source listed for the article (on his blog): http://www.reasons.org/articles/evolutio...quilibrium

Followed shortly by:

"Who provides for the raven its prey,
When its young ones cry to God,
And wander about for lack of food? Job 38:41

The wee corbies that nest in the conifer trees ‘round my hoose are awfully clever. Noah and Elijah used them as couriers back in the day."

...This is the article you're citing for scientific support?

(March 19, 2014 at 1:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: brandon carter pretty much put the kibosh on naturalistic evolution when he calculated the odds that other intelligent being exist in the U.
"In a very interesting research paper published in 1983, physicist Brandon Carter calculated the probability for a species as technically advanced as human beings to have developed from a microbial species in ten billion years or less. The odds are 10^-24,000,000. This result completely rules out the possibility of any extraterrestrial intelligence arising anywhere in the Universe but also the impossibility of human life arising from any naturalistic means." Source: Carter, Brandon, “The Anthropic Principle and its implications for Biological Evolution”, Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society, A 310, pp- 347-60. (1983).

these odds demonstrate improbability that intelligent life arouse on

*Sigh*

He has no way of determining the odds, because he has no complete knowledge of the early conditions of the planet, of what ways abiogenesis is possible, of the branches evolution may have taken, or anything like that. Not only is he working from fundamentally incomplete data, he also has a sample size of one from which to make his calculations.

So to be clear, you're citing calculations of probability from a man not in possession of anywhere near the real facts of the situation, and with only that single, incomplete example to work from. Where does one derive any probability from that level of information?

I know you guys are so desperate, in the face of the real evidence for abiogenesis and all that, that you have to retreat to "it's improbable so it's impossible," but since you also apparently have no understanding of how one comes to conclusions of probability, you're just embarrassing yourselves.

What are the odds that a god who was very active and interactive with people on Earth would decide to make himself impossible to detect just before human record-keeping started to become somewhat reliable and before methods of detection became so sophisticated?

Abiogenesis is impossible but resurrection is not?

Brandon Carter is a theoretical physicist and lacks the requisite expertise to serve as an authority on the subject.

Next!

(March 19, 2014 at 6:23 pm)rasetsu Wrote: Brandon Carter is a theoretical physicist and lacks the requisite expertise to serve as an authority on the subject.

Next!

A disgrace for theoreticalphysicistkind!