frodo what is the reason to believe in god?

To have the best life you can.

(March 20, 2014 at 5:24 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: To have the best life you can.

See. You don't care if god doesn't exist you just believe to improve your life.
FINALLY WE GOT HERE.
So how does it improve your life exactly?

(March 19, 2014 at 7:06 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm)tor Wrote: I disagree. Now what?

You prove to us how something which by definition is not provable should be provable. Then we can stop thinking that you're being an idiot.

We?

You're the one claiming unprovable things exist by default.

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(March 19, 2014 at 6:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm)tor Wrote: I object to a belief in Gods which do not manifest in reality.

That's pretty idiotic.

(March 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm)tor Wrote:

(March 20, 2014 at 5:12 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Yes. It would be irrational to believe that such a being could be proven by the scientific method.

Why don't you believe in narnia, ninja turtles, dragons and vampires then?

(March 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Because there is no reason to believe that those exist.

What do you mean I don't care lol The only point is to improve your life : "I come to give you life in all its fullness". If I didn't believe my life wouldn't be improved. Kinda sucks huh?

God is love > good > just

Believing in God my world view isn't neutral. Ultimately justice is served, and good wins. My world view is positive. I have reason to live like the world isn't neutral and indiscriminate. I'm not fighting against a stream of negativity, I'm going along with a positive reality.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not claiming any exclusivity. It's just this is one recipe for success works, and I don't know of any others.

Thanks for honesty.
As for love. Love is love.
Love is part of humans.
It has no relation to any non existent being which created the universe.

(March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm)tor Wrote: Love is love.
Love is part of humans.
It has no relation to any non existent being which created the universe.

I agree. But we're not talking about a non existent being.

(March 20, 2014 at 5:45 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(March 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm)tor Wrote: Love is love.
Love is part of humans.
It has no relation to any non existent being which created the universe.

I agree. But we're not talking about a non existent being.

As long as he will be no different from ninja turtles and dragons yes we do

But he is different, as we have just established. Belief in him is beneficial. A Reason to believe.

It might be beneficial to you but it does not have any affect of the truth of it.
If somebody is happy because teenage mutant ninja turtles exist and he believes it doesn't mean they exist.