(April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am)c172 Wrote: That cripple Pistorius doesn't even deserve a pretty blonde woman in bed with him, much less his own life.

It's looking like he'll get convicted.

Women are visual creatures, too.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:30 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Women are visual creatures, too.

Visual eh?

(April 15, 2014 at 9:34 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote:

(April 15, 2014 at 9:30 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Women are visual creatures, too.

Visual eh?

Lol :p

Another unconventional opinion...many women are not interested in marriage.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:28 am)Sejanus Wrote:

(April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am)c172 Wrote: That cripple Pistorius doesn't even deserve a pretty blonde woman in bed with him, much less his own life.

It's looking like he'll get convicted.

OI! NO SPOILERS!!!

(April 15, 2014 at 9:22 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote:

(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: 1. How would we terraform the moon? How, with current technology, would we go about exploring the cosmos to a greater degree than we already are (which is to say with satellites, probes, rovers etc)?

Well first of all, it's inevitable that we will explore and terraform other planets or moons. As far as how to do it? why the hell are you asking me how to do it? Do you realize this is a hypothetical thread and not an actual call to action of ones ideas?

(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: 2. How sentient should the animal be? Where will you draw the line? If they're going to be treated as people, will they be subject to human laws? This idea is just plain mental.

Sufficiently sentient.

Dolphins and Orca's qualify. I'd give them a lot more rights than they currently do, wouldn't you? Or are you some heartless piece of shit that doesn't care for another living things suffering on the same level or close the same level of suffering you can.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:02 am)ElDinero Wrote: Actually I think most of your ideas are pretty shit or stupid, or exist only in a utopian fantasy. I mean I guess sure, free water and food for all would be terrific. But you might as well put 'nobody should have to work', it's pointless.

That's why they're called "unconventional opinions" you unpleasant douche.

Go into why they're bad ideas instead of just making a blanket statement. Most of my list is pretty damn sensible I don't know what kind of guy has a problem with things like proper distribution of wealth or wanting better gaming or no taboo over things etc.

It may be a hypothetical thread, but surely it's implied that there should be some kind of practical way to achieve these goals, otherwise why not just say 'no hardships for anyone'? In what way is 'free food and water for all' unconventional? I would think that support for such an idea would be near universal. But nobody would suggest it because it's so fantastical and is pointless in a discussion like this.

Similarly, in what way is 'we should explore the cosmos' unconventional? I'm not sure you understand what the word means if you think it's unconventional. The only question that remains is how we would go about doing it.

Obviously I'm in favour of animal welfare generally, but what is it you mean when you say they should be given person-hood?

One more: Christians themselves will end up destroying Christianity, not Atheists.

(I say this in response to how Christians think atheists are out to "destroy" their faith. Nope, Christians and their hypocritical behaviors and antics are doing a fine job at destroying their own faith.)

Irony at its best. :-)

(April 15, 2014 at 9:53 am)ElDinero Wrote: It may be a hypothetical thread, but surely it's implied that there should be some kind of practical way to achieve these goals, otherwise why not just say 'no hardships for anyone'?

I'd say a lot of them are practical, but, I've yet to hear any alternatives or refutations. Just more complaining.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:53 am)ElDinero Wrote: In what way is 'free food and water for all' unconventional? I would think that support for such an idea would be near universal. But nobody would suggest it because it's so fantastical and is pointless in a discussion like this.

Did you run out of theists to argue with or something? this is just obnoxious of you to say. You would think that it would be universal, but it's not. You still got most of the world who thinks it's okay to charge money for everything and they do. We still charge people for the basics of life and we will likely not take care of our species fully like that for a long time. Therefore unconventional opinion since the majority aren't doing anything about it.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:53 am)ElDinero Wrote: Similarly, in what way is 'we should explore the cosmos' unconventional? I'm not sure you understand what the word means if you think it's unconventional. The only question that remains is how we would go about doing it.

Again, in the sense that it's not important to society and a lot of what I said is not on the agenda right now.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:53 am)ElDinero Wrote: Obviously I'm in favour of animal welfare generally, but what is it you mean when you say they should be given person-hood?

In 2013, India officially recognized dolphins as non-human persons

But animal equality isn't likely to happen soon because people love to eat their Bacon and we know for a fact pigs are smarter than our pets who we give partial person-hood too. So again, it's unconventional since most people don't give a shit about other animals to the extent they should. You can poll people all day and they may be in favor of what I'm saying, then they will go eat Pork afterwords or forget about it. Person-hood is closely tied to legal and political concepts of citizenship, equality, and liberty. And of those 3 choices, the only one that other animals have no need for right now is citizenship.

(April 15, 2014 at 9:34 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote:

(April 15, 2014 at 9:30 am)Deidre32 Wrote: Women are visual creatures, too.

Visual eh?

Get back to me with sapphires.

I'm not a fan of diamonds.

(April 15, 2014 at 4:05 pm)Beccs Wrote:

(April 15, 2014 at 9:34 am)Quantum Theorist Wrote: Visual eh?

Get back to me with sapphires.

I'm not a fan of diamonds.

Meet me in the middle and take a blue diamond