(April 24, 2014 at 11:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: If I went to a local graveyard, dug up every ones bones, and lined the various bodies just so, I could create a convincing lineup showing evolution

Only convincing to the spectacularly easily convinced idiots like christains, Rev, not to the paleontologists.

A paleontologist might note that out of the whole jumbo of bones there are about 206 distinctly different varieties. They might date all of the bones of a similar variety and notice although no two bones are exactly alike, there is no clear trend in how they change over time.

They might compare the bones with bones of similar live animals like chimps and note certain bone features like the suture in skulls change in a predictable way as the animal age, and they might notice the same age related variation exist in bones produced but idiotic christain grave robbing hucksters. They might arrange those bones in sequence of age, and conclude some of the difference is age related, and not a progression of evolutionary change.

They might look at the same bone from different individuals, and observe the range of variation is no larger than what is observed in a living breeding population of another species, and conclud these bones all belong to one specie.

They might observe hip bones clearly show two different minimumally overalapping morphologies, and also observe these differences in morphologies are also seen between different sexes of similar living population, and conclude they represent not transitional forms, but different sexes.

Basically, when the likes of you second guess people with real PhDs from real university that teach real since, it would be like a cockroach challenging an elephant. The powers of scientists in truth finding are not superhuman. But they vastly surpass what the likes of you can imagine, nor indeed what your jesus could have imagined, because otherwise he might not have ran around full of himself and thinking his balony story of his own peternity could never be descisively penetrated.

(April 24, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Tonus,
You don't have to buy a ticket if you are not interested.

The Creation Museum is in my state. It exists because of my tax dollars. I don't have a choice but to pay for it.

(April 25, 2014 at 6:46 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote:

(April 24, 2014 at 11:34 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Tonus,
You don't have to buy a ticket if you are not interested.

The Creation Museum is in my state. It exists because of my tax dollars. I don't have a choice but to pay for it.

It's amazing the tax concessions that place has received, isn't it?

I wonder if a museum of natural history would get the same concessions?

I also wonder if, after 49 pages, we can rename this thread "Failed Argument #1"?

(April 25, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Esquilax Wrote:

(April 25, 2014 at 2:19 pm)rasetsu Wrote: What characteristics must a fossil have in order for you to consider it a transitional fossil? You've implied you're looking for specific things. What are they?

He'll never say this, but secretly, the answer is "nothing that any fossil will ever have." Out loud he'll give us some nonsense remarkably similar to the crocoduck, if he answers at all. Mark my words.

The creationists' definition for a 'transitional fossil' is: "if it exists it's not one."

(April 25, 2014 at 8:25 pm)Godlesspanther Wrote:

(April 25, 2014 at 5:44 pm)Esquilax Wrote: He'll never say this, but secretly, the answer is "nothing that any fossil will ever have." Out loud he'll give us some nonsense remarkably similar to the crocoduck, if he answers at all. Mark my words.

The creationists' definition for a 'transitional fossil' is: "if it exists it's not one."

AIG said so in overarching term. No fact can be admitted to exist which shows "scripture" to be false.

It is ironic AIG thinks their proclamation about truth of genesis could even theoretically be of any value whatsoever when they out and out admitted their proclamation would be the same regardless of whether genesis is in reality true or not.

Total dissociation from truth is in the christian mind the only way to the truth.

The evidence has a clear evolutionist bias. Therefore, we must discard the evidence in favor of a creationist-biased worldview to restore impartiality.

(April 25, 2014 at 6:35 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(April 24, 2014 at 11:39 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: If I went to a local graveyard, dug up every ones bones, and lined the various bodies just so, I could create a convincing lineup showing evolution

It would be a great stunt to pull off, though wouldn't it? But someone would have to REALLY believe they could fool an expert with it, and no one REALLY thinks that, do they? No one believes it enough to try it with, say, an archaeological site, and send the photos of carefully arranged skeletons to a museum or university for an evaluation of the remarkable series of gradations in hominid evolution they've 'discovered'. You've never met anyone in your life with a skeleton that could be mistaken for one belonging to a Homo Erectus.

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(April 25, 2014 at 5:47 am)Confused Ape Wrote: Evolution is no threat to anyone's faith in God and Jesus. This includes your own faith.

Maybe he perceives his own faith as so brittle that it can't take even one moment of seriously considering the science without crumbling like a cracker.

I've mentioned that I started off as a creationist. Finding out out how deliberately dishonest so-called 'men of God' were being was far worse than if I had found out they were honestly mistaken.

Lol unless he has met a Olympic runner with forward facing palms, no fore head and eye brows you break your fist on.