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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:26 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Folks I'll be honest here. I don't believe from choice, I believe from fear. I litterally admit the only reason I believe is out of fear of hell. I have attempted to live my life without fearing it, but could not. There is always the "what if I'm wrong?" question burning within me.
It becomes even worse since I am in fact a transsexual, and many of my fellow believers still believe I will burn in hell because of it, even if I do believe.
If you are serious here, and it is hard to take you seriously because of the massive 180 that you just pulled after 25 pager of incoherent idiocy, then why do you continue to subscribe to a belief system that conflicts with everything you experience in the real world? A belief system in which logic would dictate that the deity created you as a transsexual (something which has been proven to be outside of one's control) and therefore will torture you for eternity because of that fact? Makes no sense. Do yourself a favor, learn about what atheism really is, not what you've been told it is.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm
And then she was gone.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:27 pm
This sounds legit
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:28 pm
The end.
Damn... I was so looking forward for a chat with her mum...
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:28 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Stephanie Wrote: Atheists why won't you realize God allows you to CHOOSE to go to hell? He gives everyone free will to make whatever decision they so desire. Therefore he allows you to not believe in him and choose eternal damnation. God is all loving, he hates to see his children go to hell, yet for us to truly feel any happiness evil must exist and we must be allowed to choose it over good. Otherwise we would be mindless robots, not capable of joy or sadness. God gave us the greatest gift imaginable, use it as you will. And please choose God's free love gift.
This asinine post is proof of Marilyn Manson's and Anton Lavey's assertion that the Devil is the church's best friend because he has kept them in business for so long. You worship a God out of fear of a monster that will punish you with eternal damnation if I don't worship God. That is nothing more than totalitarian fear manipulation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXuD8IFj...r7&index=5
As for whether I'm going to hell, well...I'd much rather spend eternity in hell with Satan, Larry Flynt and Marilyn Manson than spend eternity in heaven with you, Bryan Fischer, Ann Coulter, Pat Robertson, and these assholes below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC0mus92...CCF3BF71AE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FmIMAA4...CCF3BF71AE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j54rilnw...CCF3BF71AE
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:29 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Beccs Wrote: Haven;t we heard a similar statement from another theist in the past few months who came here prosletysing?
Sock puppet? JesusLover1! Heeeeeee's Baaaaacccck!!!!
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:30 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 6:22 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 6:20 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Oh, oh... and remember what the pope said recently?
Atheists, as long as they're good, don't go to hell!
But that is only one man, how do I know he is correct? What if the Westboro Baptist Church is correct? Then I'm f***ed.
What if, as the evidence seems to show, they're all wrong. What then. That fucking "Pascal's Wager" claims you lose nothing by a life of faith, even if you're wrong. Bullshit. What about sleeping in on Sunday, as I did today? How about a life without fear of eternal reprisals for finite transgressions? How about 10 percent of you income back in your hands instead of being used to support a bunch of lying stealing frauds? Pascal's wager is a joke, and not even a funny one. Don't let the propaganda machine keep you down. Research the truth. Find out for yourself. And, if your research leads you back to a gawd, at least you'll understand far better and can maybe find a church that accepts ALL gawds chillins', not just the ones the close-minded bigots are comfortable being around.
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Re: RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:32 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 5:58 pm)Stephanie Wrote: (April 27, 2014 at 5:56 pm)Quantum Theorist Wrote: You won't even consider our responses intellectually. I shouldn't have wasted time if you weren't going to engage me.
I read your comments and I've essentially covered them before besides the sexism. And yes, men are better than women. I humbly concede this fact, and know I am privelaged to serve God's choosen men. As for this, speak for yourself. I, for one, am at least as good as any man. I will never "serve" a man. Why do you hate yourself so much? You are a woman, be fucking proud of it. Why should you "serve" men? Are men incapable of doing things for themselves? A penis isn't a magic thing that makes a person superior. A vagina on the other hand.... Look how small it is and somehow a baby can get out of there. That's pretty magical and almost worthy of superiority! Can a man pass a whole human being? Didn't think so.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:35 pm
Zero to banned in under two hours. That's impressive.
Well, that was fun.
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RE: Atheists choose hell
April 27, 2014 at 6:35 pm
(April 27, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Stephanie Wrote: It would be a whole lot easier if my parents didn't paint it as such a reality. They claim to speak to God, my mom has seen him apparently, it is more real to them than anything else in the world.
They need therapy if they are actually hallucinating presences.
(April 27, 2014 at 6:25 pm)Stephanie Wrote: How could they be so so so so so so so so so so misled?
Because they are so so so so so so so so so so afraid. Afraid of death. Afraid of loss. Afraid of ceasing to exist. These are deep fears and can be falsely consoled with the bogus promises of an afterlife.
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