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Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
Did he bother to even write this down?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:00 am)Kitanetos Wrote:
(May 8, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: When Jesus returns.

Except he never will. Tiger

He will come as a thief in the night. Please repent before it is too late.

(May 9, 2014 at 12:12 am)eyemixer Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:04 am)Revelation777 Wrote: God created after their "kind"

I am having difficulty understanding what you mean by 'kind' as it is not a scientific term nor have I ever seen it used in a biology course.

Can you explain what you mean by 'kind'? I do not need any fancy language, simply what you understand a 'kind' to mean in your own words.

I am not claiming you are wrong, I just don't understand what you mean by the term and that confusion makes any meaningful conversation impossible, contrary to the goals of a discussion forum I believe.

Read Genesis 1 for clarity:
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Gen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
Gen 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Gen 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Gen 1:15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Gen 1:17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Gen 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
Gen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Gen 1:23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
Gen 1:24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
Gen 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:29 am)Revelation777 Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:02 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: He's gonna roast 'em, amirite?

I meant, when you see Him coming in the clouds, you can't deny He is God.

Wait, so he's NOT going to toss all of us who have committed that one unforgivable sin into the lake of fire?

Sweet.

Incoherent, but sweet.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:16 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:09 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I don't see how this proves anything?

Well, my pointing out that biology has advanced in fifty years proves that the source you started out the thread with is a tad out of date, my link to evolutionary algorithms proves that the mechanisms for evolution work, and my quip about airplanes not reproducing proves that airplanes don't have sex.

I'm pretty glad about that last part.

Quote:If someone believes God is the Creator, how is that being dishonest? To be it is being genuine.

Believing in god isn't dishonest, but being a creationist is, because you have to outright ignore the mountains of evidence for evolution.

Quote:I don't call it magic, I call it power.

Don't you think that's a pretty meaningless quibble?

Please come to my house and show me you create something out of nothing then you will grab my attention.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:29 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Change doesn't happen where one kind evolved into another different kind.


In case you missed my earlier question to you, I will repeat it as you made a further reference to 'kinds' that I still need clarification on.

Thank you for replying to my question.
(May 9, 2014 at 12:12 am)eyemixer Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:04 am)Revelation777 Wrote: God created after their "kind"

I am having difficulty understanding what you mean by 'kind' as it is not a scientific term nor have I ever seen it used in a biology course.

Can you explain what you mean by 'kind'? I do not need any fancy language, simply what you understand a 'kind' to mean in your own words.

I am not claiming you are wrong, I just don't understand what you mean by the term and that confusion makes any meaningful conversation impossible, contrary to the goals of a discussion forum I believe.

Can you please explain to me, in your own words, what your definition of 'kind' (in the biological sense) is so I can better understand the arguments you are presenting for people to consider?
NOT logic:
1. Claim to have logic
2. Throw a tantrum when asked to present it
3. Claim you've already presented it
4. Repeat step 1

*Rampant.A.I.'s quote
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:28 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:23 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I don't believe in invoking magic, I believe in the Holy Bible.

...which is equally unjustified, and a distinction without a difference as well.

Then I would have to refer to you as a non-believer
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:38 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Please come to my house and show me you create something out of nothing then you will grab my attention.

I don't understand: given that my position is that creation ex nihilo isn't something that happens, even via god, why would you expect me to be able to do that? Thinking

Rev, are you taking this seriously?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:39 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Then I would have to refer to you as a non-believer

Sweet. Devil
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:37 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(May 9, 2014 at 12:29 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I meant, when you see Him coming in the clouds, you can't deny He is God.

Wait, so he's NOT going to toss all of us who have committed that one unforgivable sin into the lake of fire?

Sweet.

Incoherent, but sweet.

You will be given your chance to explain yourself before Him. I hope you repent long before that fateful day.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
(May 9, 2014 at 12:42 am)Revelation777 Wrote: You will be given your chance to explain yourself before Him. I hope you repent long before that fateful day.

Simply stating it does not make it true. Wink Shades
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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