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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:28 pm
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(May 10, 2014 at 1:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Given that it's the first concrete detail we've gotten out of Rev regarding an area of biology...
I agree completely, I'm hoping he can add a bit to the interbreeding stipulation. He may not, and I may be given license to decide his religious beliefs for him (my interpretations of the scripture he posted). At this point I am not sure which is more likely, but I'm hoping he decides to communicate with me and not talk at me.
So far slow going, but there is always the chance. I don't have to agree with him, I just need to know what the words he uses actually mean to him, or there is nothing but noise.
So help me out here Rev! I want to know what YOU think.
NOT logic:
1. Claim to have logic
2. Throw a tantrum when asked to present it
3. Claim you've already presented it
4. Repeat step 1
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:42 pm
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(May 7, 2014 at 12:06 am)Revelation777 Wrote: (May 6, 2014 at 11:29 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: You've confounded two things. Jack and shit.
As a red labeled member, let me encourage you to set an example on this forum for proper decorum. 
As a green-labelled member, let me inform you that you are not a red-labelled member.
(See the importance of grammar in discussions?)
Anyway, I'm sure I speak for the newly-ripened CD when I say:
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:45 pm
(May 7, 2014 at 12:06 am)Revelation777 Wrote: As a red labeled member, let me encourage you to set an example on this forum for proper decorum.
Eat me.
How's that for proper decorum?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:48 pm
(May 10, 2014 at 1:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (May 7, 2014 at 12:06 am)Revelation777 Wrote: As a red labeled member, let me encourage you to set an example on this forum for proper decorum.
Eat me.
How's that for proper decorum?
Depends which fork you want him to use.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:52 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: When Jesus returns there will be no atheists left. But till then there will be unbelief.
Good luck with that. When that happens, when ol' "Pity Me" decides to show his beardy face, give me a call. In the meantime, I'll thank you to keep your preachy platitudes and contemptuous condemnations to your sanctimonious self, m'kay?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 1:59 pm
(May 8, 2014 at 11:59 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: When Jesus returns there will be no atheists left. But till then there will be unbelief.
Can I just say how gross it is that your standard response to people calmly attempting to investigate your beliefs is essentially a revenge fantasy?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 2:07 pm
Apologies if this has already been covered; I'm catching up and replying on the fly.
(May 9, 2014 at 12:23 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Well many of your government leaders, judges, law officers, etc. believe God created everything, does that make them idiots too?
Here's how it works. Please take the time to take this on board, beacuse it really is key to the entire issue.
The Earth, like every planet we know, is spherical. Slightly flattened at the poles, hence "oblate". Now...
A man believes the world is a flat, circular plane. Does that change the shape of the world?
The man points to an ancient book which supports his belief. Does that change the shape of the world?
The man finds ten people who agree with him. Does that change the shape of the world?
Those people recruit thousands of followers. Does that change the shape of the world?
Some of those people are scientists. Does that change the shape of the world?
Eventually the group grows to millions, some of them world leaders. Does that change the shape of the world?
Soon the entire population believes the world is a flat, circular plane. Whole websites and libraries are filled with literature declaiming the truth of the world's being a flat, circular plane.
Does that change the shape of the world?
Would the world, if able to express a preference, care?
That is why the argument from popularity is a logical fallacy. We already know there are people with such beliefs; but belief in a thing does not equal the true nature nor even the existence of that thing.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 2:12 pm
(May 9, 2014 at 12:29 am)Revelation777 Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 12:02 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: He's gonna roast 'em, amirite?
I meant, when you see Him coming in the clouds, you can't deny He is God.
So it's going to violate free will?
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 2:16 pm
(May 10, 2014 at 2:12 pm)Stimbo Wrote: (May 9, 2014 at 12:29 am)Revelation777 Wrote: I meant, when you see Him coming in the clouds, you can't deny He is God.
So it's going to violate free will?
Nah, you'll still be free to invite him to kiss your ass.
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RE: Argument #2: Evolution Of Species
May 10, 2014 at 4:54 pm
(May 10, 2014 at 1:10 pm)eyemixer Wrote: In fairness to Rev, he has not yet responded to my question Yeah, that's pretty much been the pattern with him.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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