(May 28, 2014 at 10:46 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:

(May 27, 2014 at 10:27 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Theism = religion. Atheism = without religion.
How hard is that to understand?

Sorry, that's not what those words mean. Neither theism nor atheism are relgions. Anthropologically speaking, a religion could be atheistic. Some arguably are, or at least border on it. A ton of Unitarians are also atheists, for instance.

Theism=believes in at least one God or god.
Atheism=does not believe in at least one God or god.

Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 10:46 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Sorry, that's not what those words mean. Neither theism nor atheism are relgions. Anthropologically speaking, a religion could be atheistic. Some arguably are, or at least border on it. A ton of Unitarians are also atheists, for instance.

Theism=believes in at least one God or god.
Atheism=does not believe in at least one God or god.

Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

Funny , But the Romans called the early Christians atheists.!!

(May 28, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

Funny , But the Romans called the early Christians atheists.!!

And they called bearded people barbarians.

What's your point?

(May 28, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

Funny , But the Romans called the early Christians atheists.!!

They were atheists to the romans. They did not believe in the Roman Pantheon.

Christians are atheistic about Siva, about Krishna, Zeus, Thor, Aphrodite, Batest, Hathor, and thousands of other gods. But they still hold religious belief in a deity, and are therefore not atheists in the true sense of the term.

(May 27, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: Atheism ,another Religion?

Before you dismiss the question ; As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs.

Is a non-sequitur a non-sequitur?

(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 10:46 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Sorry, that's not what those words mean. Neither theism nor atheism are relgions. Anthropologically speaking, a religion could be atheistic. Some arguably are, or at least border on it. A ton of Unitarians are also atheists, for instance.

Theism=believes in at least one God or god.
Atheism=does not believe in at least one God or god.

Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

the·ism
ˈTHēˌizəm/Submit
noun
belief in the existence of a god or gods, especially belief in one god as creator of the universe, intervening in it and sustaining a personal relation to his creatures.

a·the·ism
ˈāTHēˌizəm/Submit
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.

Here is the whole story which makes it clear that this is a battle between an entrenched military bureaucracy which props up the jesus freaks at every opportunity and a minority ( which is a relative term ) of soldiers who object.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/27/us/27a...=3&ref=us&

Note that unlike the disingenuous interpretation provided in the OP, no "atheist" ever cites the need for "spiritual needs." The OP made that up.
The word "spiritual" appears only once in the story.

This is about politics and crooked chaplains seeking to maintain their power with the help of the high command.

(May 28, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

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(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

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Funny , But the Romans called the early Christians atheists.!!

Strictly speaking the concept and the word "atheist" didn't exist until around 1570, when the French Catholics created it as a curse word against the Protestants.

(May 28, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote:

(May 28, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Sejanus Wrote: Doesn't that definition apply more to deists? I took theism to mean belief in and worship of a personal god, (which is religion), and atheism do be the negation of theism.

Funny , But the Romans called the early Christians atheists.!!

Please be a troll... I get really sad when I get reminders that people can actually be this stupid...

(May 27, 2014 at 10:21 pm)Artur Axmann Wrote: Atheism ,another Religion?

Before you dismiss the question ; As recently reported in the New York Times, military personnel who identify themselves as "Atheists" have requested chaplains to tend to their spiritual needs.

Atheism is it not a religion! It's a relationship with reason.