I feel EXACTLY the same way as the OP in this threat, precisely and exactly.

I think it's partly because I don't drink or do drugs and I was out last night doing a gig with band I'm in surrounded by drunk and drugged up people.

I think people in big groups are fuckin idiots.

I think really everyone knows this. It's difficult to think of what I would call a rational "good" thing people do in large groups I can think of several irrational stupid bad things people do in large groups.

I think most people can't stand to be in big groups either but don't want to be alone that's why people drink alcohol and take drugs when going out at the weekend because normally people can't go out in a big crowd just for the purpose of being in each others company.

Or the people who go to church, same thing really. An irrational made up reason just to gather together, talk shit and do things without any purpose.

Just because I have these feels kind of re enforces what I've been told before that I might have autism and that's why I'm so anti social but to me it's just logical.

I'd rather be at the gym, having sex, in work or just having fun talking to a few friends while sober and not on drugs.

There probably are large groups of people doing good things but just no group that I'll ever be invited to. Like politicians or scientists or whatever.

After just reading the comment before mine I'd like to say I don't feel superior to people who do gather together and take drugs, drink, go to church, go and cheer on a football team or whatever but I do think is there something wrong with me as to why I don't get why these are supposed to be entertaining or good things.

You don't like to do those things. There's nothing wrong with that. There are many things I don't like to do that my close friends like, and vice versa. That's what makes us human.

I felt that the OP was being rather condescending, hence the mockery. If I hated everyone who didn't like to do the things I liked, I'd have a really short list of people I could consider 'worthy.'

(June 1, 2014 at 9:10 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: The important thing, Mountains, is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone without having to put in much effort.

Indeed. I have to work much harder to do so.

Hmmm, the concept of being ashamed to be human is really quite bizarre.

It's rather self-defeating and pointless to think that.

(June 1, 2014 at 6:25 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You need to follow the "I fucking love science"group on Facebook...
Every week they post what science has accomplished during that week, which just keeps your faith in humanity at a nice level.

the funny story is that I do follow it and when I start reading the comments on their site those morons are more impressed by the numbers on comments going up and down and not about the actual topic.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/ne...extinction

facebook people are fucking stupid in most cases and all they do is post stuff that was already posted in reddit or other sites. IfuckingLoveScience posts science summary from here.
http://www.reddit.com/r/futurology
http://i.imgur.com/MY60SYK.png

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(June 1, 2014 at 6:32 pm)KUSA Wrote:

(June 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: most people are motivated by exchanging green paper just pisses me off

It's not the paper that people care about. It's what the paper will get them like food, house, car, beer, pussy, ect.

oh really so why do most people complain that they lost 20 bucks and they do not even see that they have a bag full of goodies?

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(June 1, 2014 at 6:48 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(June 1, 2014 at 5:51 pm)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I feel hate, disappointment and shame towards human race and society we live in. I'm ashamed to call myself human even if there are some accomplishments we achieved that are marvelous like electricity,houses,music(or what was once called music),...but this in comparison with stupidity of our race is unbelievable. We are still rambling in 21 century who "created" our world,we are an species which is at war with it's self,the stupidity of an average human being is terrifying to me,the things we are doing to our environment,the way society treats individuals it is unbelievable just the fact that most people are motivated by exchanging green paper just pisses me off,... I could go on and bitch till eternity.
But I like the company of friends or individuals but I despise everything that extends over and individualistic personality.I hate being surrounded by people who are stupid,people with who you can't have any philosophical debates,people who don't know shit about anything and they just look at their phone all day and somehow think they are the smartest piss of crap on this entire planet,... Anyway do any of you feel such feelings towards the human species,do you have any advice you could share with me,...?

Excuse my English and sorry if this is in the wrong sub but this has been bugging me for a while.

human race,civilization and people in groups fully reciprocate your sentiments, I am sure.

I know or they don't give a fuck about me or you or anyone except what is popular now.

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(June 1, 2014 at 9:10 pm)thesummerqueen Wrote: The important thing, Mountains, is that you've found a way to feel superior to everyone without having to put in much effort.

I'm more frustrated because I can't seem to meet people who have similar ideas as me,or that I could start a debate with them It's impossible so even If I'm surrounded by teenagers or even grown ups I still feel lonely because I can't talk things with them that feel important for me.

(June 2, 2014 at 4:08 am)MountainsWinAgain Wrote:

(June 1, 2014 at 6:25 pm)pocaracas Wrote: You need to follow the "I fucking love science"group on Facebook...
Every week they post what science has accomplished during that week, which just keeps your faith in humanity at a nice level.

the funny story is that I do follow it and when I start reading the comments on their site those morons are more impressed by the numbers on comments going up and down and not about the actual topic.
http://www.iflscience.com/environment/ne...extinction

facebook people are fucking stupid in most cases and all they do is post stuff that was already posted in reddit or other sites. IfuckingLoveScience posts science summary from here.
http://www.reddit.com/r/futurology
http://i.imgur.com/MY60SYK.png

wow... just the research you've put into that... wow...

But a solution to your problem is still at hand: just don't read the comments!
That's what I do.
Internet people are ~90% trolls.

Define "hate".
Define "human race".
Define "civilization".
Define "groups".
Tell me your interests.
Tell me your age group.

No, I am not kidding. These things are important in order for me to be able to properly express my opinion.

(June 2, 2014 at 4:08 am)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm more frustrated because I can't seem to meet people who have similar ideas as me,or that I could start a debate with them It's impossible so even If I'm surrounded by teenagers or even grown ups I still feel lonely because I can't talk things with them that feel important for me.

So...people are stupid because YOU are lonely?

I think you'll find it easier to communicate if you don't treat people like they're somehow "less than" just because they don't share your interests.

I love plants. Now, several people I know love gardening, but they don't give much of a fuck about the geekier parts of horticulture or botany. I'm the only one. That doesn't make them stupid. It just makes me unique.

Maybe no one around you cares about philosophy. You have an entire internet to find someone else who does. No offense, but get over yourself.

(June 2, 2014 at 4:08 am)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm more frustrated because I can't seem to meet people who have similar ideas as me,or that I could start a debate with them It's impossible so even If I'm surrounded by teenagers or even grown ups I still feel lonely because I can't talk things with them that feel important for me.

I answered in another topic about what was the purpose of human life, and it sounded like this:

(May 30, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Ksa Wrote: I believe that human beings are the result of the Universe trying to figure itself out. So our purpose as human beings are the following:

1) Figure out this Universe and attempt to preserve life by being in control.
2) Seek out a male/female sex partner that makes us want to settle down.
3) Eat, drink and posses that which matters to us and brings us joy.
4) Seek out the chemicals of bliss by all means, dopamine, 6-MAM, oxitocyn and cannabinoids without seriously compromising 1), 2) and 3).

The good news is that you're very familiar and passionate by 1), which is good because that's our main purpose. However, you seem to have a problem with 2), 3) and 4), especially 3) and 4) because you don't seem to accept them in other people.

It's perfectly ok to live with only 1), but you would be missing a huge chunk of what life is, and trust me, you do NOT want to do that. You don't. I know girlfriends can be money driven and stubborn, I know people are foolish when they drink...I know people are misguided and use drugs in very foolish ways, but remember that society never trained them to use drugs safely which is very complex and requires a lot of knowledge.

Some people obtain 6-MAM by helping sick kids in Africa or war zones through a brain connection they call compassion, others by shooting Heroin and yet, others can get 6-MAM by raping or murdering women. What you have to realize is that there is no difference between them, because they all want the same thing: They want 6-MAM. They want dopamine. They want to feel good and live a good life.

If you feel bliss by debating 1), you cannot hate people who feel bliss by doing 3) and 4) because they want the same thing you want. They just obtain it in a different way, though a different mechanism. Sure, the people you describe seem to compromise 1) by doing too much of 2), 3) an 4), but you compromise 2), 3) AND 4) by doing too much of 1). Which is better? I hope the answer will come to you very soon.

(June 2, 2014 at 8:22 am)thesummerqueen Wrote:

(June 2, 2014 at 4:08 am)MountainsWinAgain Wrote: I'm more frustrated because I can't seem to meet people who have similar ideas as me,or that I could start a debate with them It's impossible so even If I'm surrounded by teenagers or even grown ups I still feel lonely because I can't talk things with them that feel important for me.

So...people are stupid because YOU are lonely?

I think you'll find it easier to communicate if you don't treat people like they're somehow "less than" just because they don't share your interests.

I love plants. Now, several people I know love gardening, but they don't give much of a fuck about the geekier parts of horticulture or botany. I'm the only one. That doesn't make them stupid. It just makes me unique.

Maybe no one around you cares about philosophy. You have an entire internet to find someone else who does. No offense, but get over yourself.

well i'm 16 maybe this answers my narcissism or what the fuck you call teenagers these days,I want eye to eye contact not long distance discussions. Well I do not treat them like they are something less It just seems disappointing to me that,the masses like Heraclitus put it are little better than cows, interested only in eating and breeding.

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(June 2, 2014 at 4:43 am)One Above All Wrote: Define "hate".
Define "human race".
Define "civilization".
Define "groups".
Tell me your interests.
Tell me your age group.

No, I am not kidding. These things are important in order for me to be able to properly express my opinion.

I didn't mean hate literally I feel more shame and disappointment towards the masses. (I mean disappointment and shame in an dictionary sense) and same goes for human race,civilization,groups of people,.... My interests are extreme sports and philosophy and I'm 16 years old.