(June 4, 2014 at 1:50 am)snowtracks Wrote: get on the right side of the deal:
The bottom line is that the universe is at least ten billion orders of magnitude (a factor of 1010,000,000,000times) too small or too young for life to have assembled itself by natural processes.(i) These kinds of calculations have been done by researchers, both non-theists and theists, in a variety of disciplines.(42-58)
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles...nt-design/

That sounds like pure BS. For one thing no one knows how large the universe is or what it is. Second, the age of the universe is just speculation. If you use your own mind and think about it you will see why it's BS.

the 5'th day of Genesis which is called the Cambrian explosion had an explosion of body plans that doesn't fit into macroevolution models. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/06/bio...21931.html

(June 4, 2014 at 2:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: the 5'th day of Genesis which is called the Cambrian explosion had an explosion of body plans that doesn't fit into macroevolution models. http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/06/bio...21931.html

By now I think we can actually play Snowtracks bingo with the number of dishonest tropes he employes every time he posts.

Let's see: out of date source... well, five years old isn't exactly great. Discredited author, since it's Casey Luskin. Single source that doesn't hold a view shared by the scientific community heralded as the thing that resolves an issue in favor of god. Dramatic, willful misinterpretation of a scientific report in order to shoehorn in god. Bald assertions about biblical things...

Hey, bingo!

(June 4, 2014 at 2:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: the 5'th day of Genesis which is called the Cambrian explosion

The "fifth day" of Genesis describes the creation of every type of sea-dwelling creature and all of the birds. Neither of which happen to appear in Cambrian fossil layers.

And this is an old creationist canard, to quote-mine a scientist who expresses doubt about something they knew or thought they knew and implying that it wipes out the entire evolutionary framework. All it does is remind us that science can recognize where it is wrong and correct itself, whereas religion doesn't have the freedom to do that because being wrong actually does destroy its entire framework. So you wind up with people trying slimy maneuvers like Luskin, or making laughably crazy statements like snowtracks continues to do.

This would be the Casey Luskin who can't even pronounce the word “carboniferous“, right?

(June 4, 2014 at 2:15 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(June 4, 2014 at 1:50 am)snowtracks Wrote: get on the right side of the deal:
The bottom line is that the universe is at least ten billion orders of magnitude (a factor of 1010,000,000,000times) too small or too young for life to have assembled itself by natural processes.(i) These kinds of calculations have been done by researchers, both non-theists and theists, in a variety of disciplines.(42-58)
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles...nt-design/

That sounds like pure BS. For one thing no one knows how large the universe is or what it is. Second, the age of the universe is just speculation. If you use your own mind and think about it you will see why it's BS.

at that site Simple to remember (Judaism online) it just lists what the natural state of earth and our universe would be if it were younger or older than it is now or if earth was closer or farther away etc.. It seems that they are attributing simple physics and logical conclusions (like our earth wouldn't be habitable if it wasn't right where it is) and think that's proof for intelligent design.

Snowtracks


you do understand that rocks that fall into a stars gravitational pull start going in circles around the star and their orbits inevitably drive them into the star, right? Obviously there's a habitable zone where all the elements are able to exist and thrive and *gasp, evolve with the right conditions. Do you believe earth is the only inhabited planet in the galaxy and beyond?

Actually the orbits are ellipses rather than true circles, but often they're as close to being circles as makes little damn.

I see snowy is going for the "I'll just keep saying stupid shit until everyone gives up and then claim victory" routine.

Stay classy.

(June 4, 2014 at 3:22 am)Tonus Wrote:

(June 4, 2014 at 2:44 am)snowtracks Wrote: the 5'th day of Genesis which is called the Cambrian explosion

The "fifth day" of Genesis describes the creation of every type of sea-dwelling creature and all of the birds. Neither of which happen to appear in Cambrian fossil layers.

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And this is an old creationist canard, to quote-mine a scientist who expresses doubt about something they knew or thought they knew and implying that it wipes out the entire evolutionary framework. All it does is remind us that science can recognize where it is wrong and correct itself, whereas religion doesn't have the freedom to do that because being wrong actually does destroy its entire framework. So you wind up with people trying slimy maneuvers like Luskin, or making laughably crazy statements like snowtracks continues to do.

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