(June 8, 2014 at 8:53 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 8:15 pm)mickiel Wrote: Any other requests?

Just the two.

Stop trolling.

And learn how to format quotes properly, ffs. (This goes for everyone, by the way.)

I am not trolling, how can I troll on my own threads? And I do my best with learning the quotes; but if you are unsatisfied, I can take whatever punishment you so desire.

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(June 8, 2014 at 8:57 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 8:50 am)mickiel Wrote: We are living beings; conscious beings; and I cannot see consciousness as a result of unconsciousness.

I cannot say that I find quantum mechanics very comprehensible, but it helps my computer work. That's good enough for me.

There are explanations of consciousness that don't rely upon supernatural intervention. You should perhaps read some Nick Humphries?

I am content with reading Julian Jaynes work on consciousness; I learn a lot from him.

(June 6, 2014 at 9:08 am)mickiel Wrote: If the earth was closer to the sun, it would be too hot and we would not exist. If it was much further away, we could not exist.

No, things in our reality are too deliberate , the earth was obviously well suited for humans.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that the vast majority of the Universe, including significant proportions of the Earth, are uninhabitable without techonological aid -- or at all.

In other words, you're practing selection bias.

The puddle is always amazed at how well the hole has been shaped to fit its water.

(June 8, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(June 6, 2014 at 9:08 am)mickiel Wrote: If the earth was closer to the sun, it would be too hot and we would not exist. If it was much further away, we could not exist.

No, things in our reality are too deliberate , the earth was obviously well suited for humans.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that the vast majority of the Universe, including significant proportions of the Earth, are uninhabitable without techonological aid -- or at all.

In other words, you're practing selection bias.

The puddle is always amazed at how well the hole has been shaped to fit its water.

Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth? You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?

(June 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm)mickiel Wrote: I am not trolling, how can I troll on my own threads?

You are trolling this forum and its members. I am asking for the second time that you stop.

(June 8, 2014 at 8:58 pm)mickiel Wrote: And I do my best with learning the quotes; but if you are unsatisfied, I can take whatever punishment you so desire.

Please do try to learn the correct formatting. The procedure isn't hard and the linked tutorial is easy to follow.

As for punishment, what I desire is not the issue. What may be appropriate is. Only you have the power to influence that.

(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: The problem with this line of reasoning is that the vast majority of the Universe, including significant proportions of the Earth, are uninhabitable without techonological aid -- or at all.

In other words, you're practing selection bias.

The puddle is always amazed at how well the hole has been shaped to fit its water.

Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth? You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?

How come you think they didn't?

(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth? You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?

Why would any sane god want to create a Universe this size, with billions upon billions of galaxies made up of countless stars and likely concomitant worlds, if it was focused only on one species on one tiny ball of rock and iron orbiting one insignificant star near the edge of one insignificant galaxy?

(June 8, 2014 at 8:48 pm)mickiel Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 8:43 pm)Luckie Wrote: Hellow, hi. Hi there hi.

In instances like this, I refer to my handy "Esquilax Guide to Responding to Special People Handbook."

Situations like this call for an open mind, because hey! Maybe this person is for real! Maybe they're real and we just think its too funny to actually be real! I'd feel awful sad if this was the case and we were his one and only impression of atheists.. In times like these I ask, what would Esquilax do? And I always get an answer! Even when he's sleeping! The answer is to respond to your sillyness with cold hard FACTS and tell you if you're a poe, you should really have that looked at.
I'd help you out with the fact bit, but there's so much and I'm on my mobile. Have you ever heard of your appendix? Did you know that your very own immune system can attack you?

god did not make the human body perfect, he wanted it to age, deteriate and to die. Finding fault in creation, does not cancel out a creator; god knew what he was doing, we just don't know. I am not special, I just am not atheist, atheism has no future, nor does Christianity.

So, by that logic-- god wanted those babies to have cancer. Its his plan.

I don't appreciate you telling me that the default position of nonbelief, has no future. Coupled with a comprehensive understanding of existential rights and rationalization -in my eyes, its the only hope of a good future.

(June 8, 2014 at 9:19 pm)Stimbo Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth? You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?

Why would any sane god want to create a Universe this size, with billions upon billions of galaxies made up of countless stars and likely concomitant worlds, if it was focused only on one species on one tiny ball of rock and iron orbiting one insignificant star near the edge of one insignificant galaxy?

Obviously you consider my answers and views as trolling; so I am done. You threaten me as trolling, and have not explained how I am trolling;

I don't like being accused of being a troll and threatened.

You can have your forum if all you want is people who agree with you.

Peace.

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(June 8, 2014 at 9:20 pm)Luckie Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 8:48 pm)mickiel Wrote: god did not make the human body perfect, he wanted it to age, deteriate and to die. Finding fault in creation, does not cancel out a creator; god knew what he was doing, we just don't know. I am not special, I just am not atheist, atheism has no future, nor does Christianity.

So, by that logic-- god wanted those babies to have cancer. Its his plan.

I don't appreciate you telling me that the default position of nonbelief, has no future. Coupled with a comprehensive understanding of existential rights and rationalization -in my eyes, its the only hope of a good future.

I'm sorry, I am done. I grow tired of moderators accusing me of being a troll.

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(June 8, 2014 at 9:14 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:

(June 8, 2014 at 9:11 pm)mickiel Wrote: Why would god want any wherelse inhabitable, when his focus is on us here on earth? You miss another evidence of him right there. If life is random chance, how come no other area in this vastness got so lucky?

How come you think they didn't?

I can't answer you without being accused of being a troll; so I am done.

Peace.

(June 8, 2014 at 8:27 pm)mickiel Wrote: I wonder why, sure was not intentional.

Uh-huh. Sure it wasn't. Two of them are on page 28 if you want to go ignore them again.

(June 8, 2014 at 8:27 pm)mickiel Wrote: No I don't, I never heard of jebus?

Now you're just being intentionally obtuse.

Yep, you were right Stimbo. Troll.