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A Serious Question For Theists
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To the theists who use arguments like "you have to experience God" and "you have to believe in god to experience him" etc., that is not evidence. This so called feeling of "god" just comes from inside you, and despite the fact that there is no verifiable scientific evidence for the existence of any deity they still choose to believe in it.
 
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Broseph Ballin Wrote: despite the fact that there is no verifiable scientific evidence for the existence of any deity they still choose to believe in it. Belief in God has nothing whatsoever to do with science. If anyone chose to believe with scientific reason then that would not be a religious belief. That would not be a belief in the biblical God.  A Serious Question For Theists
June 14, 2014 at 7:25 pm
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(June 14, 2014 at 7:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Broseph Ballin Wrote: despite the fact that there is no verifiable scientific evidence for the existence of any deity they still choose to believe in it. People can choose their beliefs now? When did that happen?  (June 14, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Welsh cake Wrote:(June 14, 2014 at 12:10 pm)Eye of God Wrote: It seems reasonable that threatening others with hell could further push away non believers from the real love of God.Threatening others, period, is never going to win you any support for any cause. Threats are an effective negotiating tool when the person being threaten has been unresponsive to other methods. They are usually the final step before gunsmoke.  RE: A Serious Question For Theists
June 15, 2014 at 2:48 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2014 at 3:13 am by ska88.)
(June 13, 2014 at 7:07 am)Mr Greene Wrote: So why Islam and not Sikhism? cuz.. Islam says that God is one.. Islam answers every question I have.. and still does! and I'm a curious person who refuse to believe on something without logic or conventions.. Islam instigates us to think and learn.. Islam has rules and solutions for any problems etc etc etc Simply it satisfies me! That doesn't mean that I don't believe on other religions that came from God .. cuz we believe that God sent his message and prophets to all nations.. Only that we believe that Islam is the final one since it clarify things and it's sent to all humans in every time... But what make you atheist?! I mean what about life after death?! have you ever thought about what will happen to you when you die! Do you really think that you are going to vanish! Does that mean that your life has any meaning to you!??? then why are we here!! and what's the wisdom behind being and producing .. AND death? why are you so sure that some day you are going to die ?? why not trying to find a cure for that?? If you don't believe on God .. and judgment day.. then why do you believe that you can't live forever.. and must die ?! I'm really confused.. I just want to know what's your view .. about death and such..?!!  (June 14, 2014 at 7:25 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote:(June 14, 2014 at 7:21 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Belief in God has nothing whatsoever to do with science. If anyone chose to believe with scientific reason then that would not be a religious belief. That would not be a belief in the biblical God. of course you can always choose.. ! You are a free man with a free mind You are smart and have all the tools to study and learn and choose! No one has the right to prevent you from choosing your own decision .. and even if you were a believer .. Then God himself gave you that option. We are superior creatures.. we are better than the angles.. angles has no choice to make.. but we can ! We can believe or doubts.. refuse or obey  (June 14, 2014 at 7:09 pm)Broseph Ballin Wrote: To the theists who use arguments like "you have to experience God" and "you have to believe in god to experience him" etc., that is not evidence. This so called feeling of "god" just comes from inside you, and despite the fact that there is no verifiable scientific evidence for the existence of any deity they still choose to believe in it. There are evidences in the Holly Quran that God exist.. and even without the quran.. or any other book.. I can provide you with many evidences .. I can provide many .. historical.. medical.. social.. biological.. physical.. evidences .. But the question is! would that make you believe? to believe in any idea.. not only god existence.. you have to open your heart and mind first and accept that this idea can be true! Then you can search for evidences and make your research.. Then choose wether to or not to believe..
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 (June 15, 2014 at 2:48 am)ska88 Wrote: Islam answers every question I have.. and still does! "Magic did it," can answer most every question, but that doesn't mean those answers are true. Quote:Islam has rules and solutions for any problems ... And it doesn't mean those rules and solutions are correct. Quote:Simply it satisfies me! So do drugs, but that doesn't mean you should take them. Quote:But what make you atheist?! Lack of evidence. I suspect that's true for most other atheists here, too. Quote: I mean what about life after death?! What about it? Quote: have you ever thought about what will happen to you when you die! Do you really think that you are going to vanish! Sure. Why is that any harder to believe than that you'll be magically transported to paradise forever and ever? Quote: Does that mean that your life has any meaning to you!??? Scarcity is the dictator of value, not perpetuity. My life is more valuable because it's limited, if you actually spent a second to think about it. It's the only one I have! What about you: isn't it true that your life on earth is meaningless, since you think you've got another, better one that'll never end going on after you die? Quote: then why are we here!! Isn't living enough? Quote:There are evidences in the Holly Quran that God exist.. There's evidence in Spiderman comics that Spiderman exists. 
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Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope? (June 15, 2014 at 5:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It speaks volumes that a marginally held, contradictory point of view can be the reason that the majority of atheists are atheists. Oh this is going to be disappointing isn't it? How can the phrase 'I don't believe in god' be contradictory? I'm sure you have been told this before frodo, but ask yourself why you don't believe in Loch Ness monster and you will have your answer as to why we don't believe in god.
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech (June 15, 2014 at 5:47 am)fr0d0 Wrote: It speaks volumes that a marginally held, contradictory point of view can be the reason that the majority of atheists are atheists. "Marginally held"? I wasn't aware the number of people who hold a belief influences its truth value.  As for contradictory, how does "I don't have evidence of this thing, therefore I will not believe in it," contradict itself?
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