The fact you even read that statistic means there is some political implication is it not? Why else acquire those statistics?

Whichever way people see it, this was a massive victory for the Conservative Party. They gained a large amount of seats from Labour (and some from the Lib Dems), showing once again that the people want them to rule. It's looking likely that even a deal between Labour and the Lib Dems won't be able to knock them off their podium, and I'm wondering if Nick Clegg will support the Conservatives now that they have won.

It's exciting times

I'm not a working class Tory. I'm a middle class Tory.


Really? My mistake; when I wrote that I was thinking of the photo of your house I seem to remember you posting. From memory it seemed to be a a two-up-two-down dwelling in a street of identical houses. Here that would a working class street. No offence intended.


Have you seen 'Ramsay St' on 'Neighbours'? That is affluent working class here.


ME? Working class to the bootstraps and bog Irish at that.

PS: It may a have been a moral victory for the Tories (if that's not an oxymoron in politics) but view here is the obnoxious and apparently incompetent Mr Brown will still be PM,in coalition with the Liberals. Were I living in the UK, I'd be very depressed right now.

You evidently haven't seen any working class areas in England then. My house is in one of the "better" areas of Englefield Green; the people around here are middle class families and students.

The "upper-middle" and upper-class people live in a different area of Englefield Green, and in larger houses (obviously). The working class around here live in much smaller houses, usually very old and in need of repair.

Additionally, since when did your class depend on where you live? I'm trying to pay for university at the moment...I need to save money on accommodation, hence why I'm not living in a large house.

As far as I understand it, you're in a middle class family if collectively all members have enough money to sustain the family for life if all working members did not work.

(May 7, 2010 at 7:25 am)Tiberius Wrote: Whichever way people see it, this was a massive victory for the Conservative Party. They gained a large amount of seats from Labour (and some from the Lib Dems), showing once again that the people want them to rule. It's looking likely that even a deal between Labour and the Lib Dems won't be able to knock them off their podium, and I'm wondering if Nick Clegg will support the Conservatives now that they have won.

It's exciting times

Come off it!

People percieve people with money are best positioned to manage it well. You couldn't get a much worse victory. They'll have to have another election PDQ to get a workable govt... which will then be complete Tory - but that wasn't what the people chose, don't kid yourself.

They didn't win outright...no, but it was still a victory. They managed to take seats from Labour and the Lib Dems, and the Lib Dems have now recognised the right of the Conservatives (as the majority party) to try to form a parliament. I'm just glad Nick Clegg didn't flip flop on that position.

Whichever way you look at it, in a few days time, maybe a week or two at the very most we are going to have a Conservative government with David Cameron as Prime Minister.

He will probably be backed up by the few Ulster Unionists and of course the Lib Dems. It was very clear in Nick Cleggs speech and in fact in his tone throughout the whole campaign that he wants nothing to do with Gordon Brown, even with the offer of voting reform on the table.

Because of this, even without the Lib Dems, David Cameron will probably be able to run a minority government as a) The Lib Dems will not want to do any deals with Gordon Brown and b) Gordon Brown is so utterly convinced of his own self importance that it is going to very difficult to get him to resign for the good of the country.

The Tories are by far, in the most powerful position in terms of votes and M.P.'s

Indeed. Although I think the Conservatives will make a deal with the Lib Dems for a referendum on electoral reform. Nick Clegg didn't even mention Labour in his speech earlier today; something a few commentators have picked up on. Labour didn't win, the Conservatives got the most seats and the most votes, and if the Lib Dems want to continue standing for fairness in elections, they have no choice but to support the party that have clearly "won".

Update: Here we go. Cameron just offered the Lib Dems electoral reform, as well as support on a number of shared Lib Dem policies. Here's hoping they can get together and form an alliance quickly.