(June 26, 2014 at 9:15 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Whatever, just don't blame me for knowing no God.

Don't blame me for knowing no leprechauns.

All hail my Maker, my father and mother!

(June 26, 2014 at 8:16 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: To be able of having non-belief in a deity, there must be one, right?

Can you have non-belief in a deity if the deity does not exist? I find it kind of weird going around claiming not to believe in something which does not exist.

No, you're messing up your boolean algebra. Whether or not a thing exists, a person can have a positive belief in it or not have a positive belief in it. A person can also hold a negative belief that the thing doesn't exist. Here: lets try an exercise on a different, but similar concept regarding belief.

Do you have a positive belief in unicorns? Yes or no.

Do you have a negative belief that no unicorns exist? Yes or no.


Personally, I don't make the positive claim that God exists and I don't make the negative claim that he doesn't exist. I don't see enough evidence for either. I just don't let the notion of the possibility of any particular non-falsifiable god affect my day-to-day decision making.

(June 26, 2014 at 8:16 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: The God created this earth and your butt. Everything on earth is created by God and is His.

Prove it.

(June 26, 2014 at 8:16 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Daniel 9;9 The Lord our God is merciful and forgiving, even though we have rebelled against him;

No one cares.

(June 26, 2014 at 7:04 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: the reality of God

Evidence, or GTFO.

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(June 26, 2014 at 7:04 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: To be able of having non-belief in a deity, there must be one, right?

False.

Man has created many things with his imagination, things that do not exist anywhere in reality except in his imagination.

(June 26, 2014 at 9:15 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Whatever, just don't blame me for knowing no God.

I wouldn't dream of it. However, I do blame you for either being a Poe or one of the biggest imbeciles to ever blunder across my radar screen. Your "arguments" aren't even worth addressing, even for the benefit of the lurkers. Every moronic thing you've written here practically begs to be posted on FSTDT.

(June 26, 2014 at 9:15 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Whatever

Ooops, someone's cognitive dissonance is making an appearance.

(June 26, 2014 at 9:15 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Whatever, just don't blame me for knowing no God.

You called? (Joke regarding the first word in that sentence and my user name.)

Trust me, if you get blamed for anything around here it will be for trying to push a god on us, not for keeping God from us.

But please calm yourself. Take a breath. I can appreciate your original post in the sense it was probably intended. None of us have evidence for life's enduring mysteries. Everyone is entitled to their own speculation. Mutual respect as fellow travelers, each of us traversing this world for the first time, is to be preferred. How well we treat each other says more about how satisfied we feel with our own progress than it does about other people's failings.

So long as we can each accept the others' autonomy and right to choose his own way, you're okay with me. But Christians haven't traditionally been a very tolerant lot when it comes to the views of people which diverge from their own. Like their god, they tend to be a jealous lot. But I don't want to become that way myself. If you're good with god, carry on. I'm not against your god or your way, I just don't want it for myself. I'm good without god. Does that seem like something we can both embrace?

(June 26, 2014 at 7:04 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Where's the line between rejecting the reality of God and accepting people who do accept said reality.

I've got the impression atheists not only reject the reality of God, they are busy with oppressing those who do believe too.

Just how do you think that the fact some people don't believe in god oppresses you? How do you think you are being oppressed?

Do atheists prohibit you from believing?
Do atheists picket your church?
Do atheists prohibit you from expressing your belief?

What?

Give us an example of this oppression? Because I don't see it.

(June 26, 2014 at 10:08 am)Jenny A Wrote:

(June 26, 2014 at 7:04 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: Where's the line between rejecting the reality of God and accepting people who do accept said reality.

I've got the impression atheists not only reject the reality of God, they are busy with oppressing those who do believe too.

Just how do you think that the fact some people don't believe in god oppresses you? How do you think you are being oppressed?

Do atheists prohibit you from believing?
Do atheists picket your church?
Do atheists prohibit you from expressing your belief?

What?

Give us an example of this oppression? Because I don't see it.

Hell, even IF atheists did picket around churches and synagogues and mosques, that still wouldn't be persecution.

(June 26, 2014 at 8:16 am)Knowledge of God Wrote: To be able of having non-belief in a deity, there must be one, right?

Can you have non-belief in a deity if the deity does not exist? I find it kind of weird going around claiming not to believe in something which does not exist.

The point of atheists seems to be of a contradicting belief.

It's quite possible not to believe in things because those things don't exist. God is one of the many things that don't exist which I don't believe in. Other things on the list include: unicorns, dragons, fairies, Santa Claus, Allah, Spiderman, ESP.

Quote:You are the strangers upon this earth. God created this earth and your butt. Everything on earth is created by God and is His. It's not my problem if he kills you just because you don't behave.

Threatening an atheist with hell is like a toddler threatening his father with coal in his stocking.

Quote:If you ever cared about your life anyway.

It's the only life I have, so I care deeply about it. You on the other hand are wasting your life worrying about a non-existent second life.