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Bad news for vegetarians
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Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm
"Bad news for vegetarians! Plants can ‘hear’ themselves being eaten - and become defensive when attacked"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...eaten.html
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 4:44 pm (This post was last modified: July 2, 2014 at 4:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Plants generally have defenses against pests and predators, reactive - passive, and even, yes, proactive. (we qualify as both, of course- to them)

We just think that there's some firm defining line between our "experience" and theirs. One ghost accusing another of having "nothing under the sheets".

Obvs just drifting here.
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 4:46 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: "Bad news for vegetarians! Plants can ‘hear’ themselves being eaten - and become defensive when attacked"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...eaten.html

I saw some people arguing that plants feel pain too. Is this true?
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 4:51 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 4:46 pm)blackout94 Wrote:
(July 2, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: "Bad news for vegetarians! Plants can ‘hear’ themselves being eaten - and become defensive when attacked"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/a...eaten.html

I saw some people arguing that plants feel pain too. Is this true?

Without a brain to process sensations, doubtful.
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 5:03 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Without a brain to process sensations, doubtful.

Is pain a tool for dealing with the environment? Is it biological in nature (chemical/electrical)? Would there be more than one way of achieving the "effect" of "pain"?

Any of these being a Y would lead one to at least consider the plants experience. If only for the way it makes us reassess our own.
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 8:31 pm
(July 2, 2014 at 5:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(July 2, 2014 at 4:51 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Without a brain to process sensations, doubtful.

Is pain a tool for dealing with the environment? Is it biological in nature (chemical/electrical)? Would there be more than one way of achieving the "effect" of "pain"?

Any of these being a Y would lead one to at least consider the plants experience. If only for the way it makes us reassess our own.

Yeah for sure. How could we answer these without the plants communicating to us directly though?
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 8:49 pm
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 2, 2014 at 10:38 pm
I wonder if the meat industry is behind this silly conclusion ?.
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RE: Bad news for vegetarians
July 3, 2014 at 4:49 am (This post was last modified: July 3, 2014 at 4:49 am by ignoramus.)
If plants can feel pain, can they also feel pleasure?
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