(July 2, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If a French woman can't wear a bikini in Mecca why should a muslim woman be allowed to wear a veil in France?

That's a great example. The primitives are fully entitled to enact whatever laws they want in their country and to expect foreigners to abide by them.

Similarly, France has the same right.

(July 2, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(July 2, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If a French woman can't wear a bikini in Mecca why should a muslim woman be allowed to wear a veil in France?

That's a great example. The primitives are fully entitled to enact whatever laws they want in their country and to expect foreigners to abide by them.

Similarly, France has the same right.

Well it's not really for the retribution response, just because they live in a theocracy and don't recognize their people's rights that doesn't mean we can't do them too, banning burcas or whatever the hell those masks are named is not against human rights, what they do in Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan and similar States is against human rights. But I agree with the part of 'You come to live here, deal with it'

The issue isn't one of individual religious freedom. It's a clever propaganda movement to subvert other countries cultural, religious, and political systems and force them to abide by a new one. It's a fatal mistake to think otherwise.

There are numerous examples of various religions co-existing in the past. A recent exeample is when the Mongols swept through Europe they allowed other religions to carry on and even paid for some new places of worship. They didn't try to convert the local yokels to the Mongol religion.

The current version of Islam is different. It fully intends to convert the whole world to Islam. It will use force, such as what's going on in Iraq and Africa, or bribes, such as what's being done in Europe. And it will use the host country's own legal system as well, such as in the U.S. But if it ever becomes the top dog by any means you will lose your head if you resist and lose.

(July 2, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(July 2, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If a French woman can't wear a bikini in Mecca why should a muslim woman be allowed to wear a veil in France?

That's a great example. The primitives are fully entitled to enact whatever laws they want in their country and to expect foreigners to abide by them.

Similarly, France has the same right.

If they brutally murder women and children, then why can't we goddammit?

(July 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: go back to your desert shithole and wear whatever the fuck you want.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28106900

Quote:The European Court of Human Rights has upheld a ban by France on wearing the Muslim full-face veil - the niqab.

Way to prove how much of a Zonie you are...Papers Please asswipe.

(July 2, 2014 at 7:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You don't have to disagree with Franklin. The context of that quote is grossly misinterpreted by modern readers who have no idea what the fuck Franklin was talking about in 1755.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/07/what-...ally-said/

Quote:In short, Franklin was not describing some tension between government power and individual liberty. He was describing, rather, effective self-government in the service of security as the very liberty it would be contemptible to trade.

But it is necessary to read the whole article.

So what are we talking about if we are not talking about an issue with France's self-governance and them sacrificing liberties in the service of security?

MM

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(July 2, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(July 2, 2014 at 10:07 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: If a French woman can't wear a bikini in Mecca why should a muslim woman be allowed to wear a veil in France?

That's a great example. The primitives are fully entitled to enact whatever laws they want in their country and to expect foreigners to abide by them.

Similarly, France has the same right.

They also stone people to death is these countries, should France adopt that too?

(July 3, 2014 at 12:20 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(July 2, 2014 at 10:33 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's a great example. The primitives are fully entitled to enact whatever laws they want in their country and to expect foreigners to abide by them.

Similarly, France has the same right.

If they brutally murder women and children, then why can't we goddammit?

What makes women and children so special? If you can't protect them don't start a war.

(July 3, 2014 at 10:47 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:

(July 3, 2014 at 12:20 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: If they brutally murder women and children, then why can't we goddammit?

What makes women and children so special? If you can't protect them don't start a war.

Traditional patriarchal values and internationally recognized rules of combat?

(July 3, 2014 at 12:23 am)Polaris Wrote: Papers Please asswipe.

What good would they do, all you're going to see on the photo is a black pillowcase with an eyeslit.

(July 3, 2014 at 11:31 am)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(July 3, 2014 at 10:47 am)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: What makes women and children so special? If you can't protect them don't start a war.

Traditional patriarchal values and internationally recognized rules of combat?

Children are the future.