(July 29, 2014 at 1:14 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: What car was/is it? I'm sure we can interpret a passage in the bible somewhere to reveal the message we want.

Wait whut? Are you implying not all cars go to heaven?

I tried googling it and actually came up with something:
http://www.elmo.ch/private/Stories-from-...-web-page/

Quote:Most people assume WWJD stands for "What would Jesus do?"
But the initials really stand for "What would Jesus drive?"

One theory is that Jesus would tool around in an old Plymouth because the Bible says,
"God drove Adam and Eve out of the Garden of Eden in a Fury."

There's more.

(sorry OP)

(July 29, 2014 at 1:45 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Animals, ALL animals, are not made in God's image, were not separately created and given life directly from His mighty nostrils so that they might worship and adore Him.

And to say, assert, believe, or even pray otherwise is VILE BLASPHEMY.

So the missus ain't going to heaven in any regard.

If you're really serious about that, I'm serious about not wanting to go there. I doubt few christians would want to, as well, because not all christians live in areas devoid of animal and plant life. We're never going to see fields of flowers where woodland creatures frolic? We're not going to be able to explore heavenly jungles and ride lions and stuff?

Over time it has become more and more obvious that Yahweh knows next to nothing about Humans.

(July 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Looked it up, they do get virgins. But, apparently, they're soulless sex robots created by the almighty to service our every secret desire.

Choice.

So, some will, in fact, resemble sheep and goats.

Interesting.


By the same token, I also presume there will be young children of both genders, various assemblages of tentacles and palps, and some that resemble rifles with penises on the barrel end, and vaginas in the clip.

Truth be told, I don't believe in any heaven. Not one for Humans nor animals. I don't often discuss religion with my wife, but when she and I do discuss it, I generally let her have her 'feel-goods' about her faith. She is quite benign in her practice of Christianity, and she's certainly the sweetest lady I've ever known, so I like keeping the peace for the sake of her happiness. Though I am sometimes very tempted to burn down religion in her presence, I refrain out of respect for her as a person, and not out of respect for her beliefs. I appreciate all of the responses, sarcasm and banter included.

Religion is only really bad when people try to force others to conform to their beliefs, or condemn people for not believing. If someone want to believe in heaven, and does good for a better chance at getting their, that's fine. It's only when people try to pass laws and discriminate based on beliefs, or even kill people that don't conform, that there are problems.

People that say why can't you just let people believe what they want to believe, overlook the fact that actions based on that belief have caused a lot of death and suffering.

(July 29, 2014 at 12:52 pm)theophilus Wrote: I have read the Bible several times and I haven't seen anything on this subject. There will be no sin in Heaven but animals are incapable of sin so there is no reason to exclude them.

As one of the previous posts pointed out there will be horses in Heaven so there could be other animals as well but we don't know whether or not these are animals that have lived previous lives on earth.

We do know that Heaven will be a place of complete happiness; if some people wouldn't be happy separated from the animals they owned on earth it is possible that those animals will be taken to Heaven but there is no way we can know for certain.

The "horses" of Revelation are symbolic. They're not real horses.

(July 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm)John S Wrote: The "horses" of Revelation are symbolic. They're not real horses.

Are you suggesting some esoteric wisdom may be found in the bible hock:

(July 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm)John S Wrote: The "horses" of Revelation are symbolic. They're not real horses.

What are they symbols of?

(July 31, 2014 at 11:49 am)theophilus Wrote:

(July 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm)John S Wrote: The "horses" of Revelation are symbolic. They're not real horses.

What are they symbols of?

Horses?

(July 30, 2014 at 1:53 pm)ShaMan Wrote: Truth be told, I don't believe in any heaven. Not one for Humans nor animals. I don't often discuss religion with my wife, but when she and I do discuss it, I generally let her have her 'feel-goods' about her faith. She is quite benign in her practice of Christianity, and she's certainly the sweetest lady I've ever known, so I like keeping the peace for the sake of her happiness. Though I am sometimes very tempted to burn down religion in her presence, I refrain out of respect for her as a person, and not out of respect for her beliefs. I appreciate all of the responses, sarcasm and banter included.

If you are going to try the horse thing (which wasn't meant as banter) I'd be interested to hear how it went down.

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(July 31, 2014 at 11:49 am)theophilus Wrote:

(July 30, 2014 at 5:32 pm)John S Wrote: The "horses" of Revelation are symbolic. They're not real horses.

What are they symbols of?

A bronze age idea of power?