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Why knocking is so important.
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I probably shouldn't knock it if I haven't tried it. But I don't intend to try it and I still really want to ridicule it, so what should I do?

Didn't A.S.K., won't tell.
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Quote:So if you were single and I told you to keep trying to find 'the one,' and I used my experience as a guid line for the direction I gave you, this to you would be an illogical process? If I pointed to all the other happily married people and tell you many if not all of them had to let go their idea of this fantasy of the perfect mate and accept the reality of who their partner really was. Is This to you is also an "illogical process?"

Again, you fail to understand why you cannot compare people and deities. People are known to exist - so if hypothetically you were to give me advice on finding "the one" then I could see if you had a partner yourself, so I could assess whether it would be worth it to follow your advice.

I cannot see the god you claim to have a personal relationship, and you consistently fail to produce any evidence whatsoever that it exists, so based on that, why would I bother following your method to find a god that we doubt exists, when you cannot show your method works?

Quote:If you are not married by the time you are 29 do you give up? Why would you keep looking?

Once again, we can see that other people have had success in looking for a partner, so there is a reason to keep on looking. You have given us nothing to suggest that about your, or any, god.

Quote:Their are many "uninhabited" houses that people knock at. I myself made that point. That was the point of continuing the asking and seeking.

Still evading the point. How can you not see that your method is irrational?
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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Quote:If you remember God did this once before in the way of Christ, and the whole of humanity did not acknowledge Him. His own people did not recognize Him. Why? Because they themselves built a myth (much like you have) of who and what God was supposed to be.

He's an omnipotent being, i.e has the power to make the people he appears to know he is their god. But that would just be doing it the easy way.
If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. - J.R.R Tolkien
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"Every luxury has a deep price. Every indulgence, a cosmic cost. Each fiber of pleasure you experience causes equivalent pain somewhere else. This is the first law of emodynamics [sic]. Joy can be neither created nor destroyed. The balance of happiness is constant.

Fact: Every time you eat a bite of cake, someone gets horsewhipped.

Facter: Every time two people kiss, an orphanage collapses.

Factest: Every time a baby is born, an innocent animal is severely mocked for its physical appearance. Don't be a pleasure hog. Your every smile is a dagger. Happiness is murder.

Vote "yes" on Proposition 1321. Think of some kids. Some kids."
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(August 10, 2014 at 12:32 pm)Insanity Wrote:
(August 10, 2014 at 11:22 am)Drich Wrote: possiable to talk to yoda, it is. But, first "you must unlearn what you have learned."
Yep, that ridiculous that I'd be joking about it to. In fact I do joke about it.
(August 10, 2014 at 11:22 am)Drich Wrote: Then the question becomes, if God does exist would you want any type of relationship with Him?
I'm not sure why this is what the question becomes. My point was that the method is flawed to begin with. Its not even a sensible question. I've never seen anyone actually define what their Gods traits are in any detail. How could I possibly tell you if I want anything to do with something that is completely unknown.

God traits are defined by Him. He is the alpha and Omega the beginning and end to all things. In short this puts the Omni max definition to shame, it means God is and has the authority to be who ever He wants to be. Can He create a rock too big for Him to lift? If He wanted to Yes. If not then No. Is He obligated to be Omni benevolent as the Omni max God is bound to be? No. In this freedom God says He is loving and jealous, he gives and He takes from those who are not faithful to what they have, He punishes the wicked and offers redemption those who seek it. God is not the God of man's religions but of the Bible. If you want to know more the answers of who God is, starts there.

(August 10, 2014 at 1:00 pm)Chad32 Wrote: I seem to be late to this party. Honestly if I go to someone's door, knock, and don't get an answer, I don't stand there for hours or days hoping someone comes to the door. I have a life to live, after all. Yahweh/Jesus had twenty years to answer the door. Or come to my door. Give me some indisputable sign that he was there. Instead I find this guy who seems no different from other mythological figures that I'm not supposed to be worshiping, and I find myself disagreeing with the actions that this person took.

It's odd that someone who supposedly wants something so bad can't figure out how to make it work. He's a failure.

You may have been knocking on a door that no one would ever answer. In the op I explain this in greater detail with the parable of the wise and foolish builders. In short if you truly sought a relationship with God then apart of that process was to abandon a system of belief that was not biblically consistent with the God of the bible.

(August 10, 2014 at 1:22 pm)Bibliofagus Wrote:
(August 10, 2014 at 11:43 am)Drich Wrote: Where/when did you get that?

I got that from you. You are the guy saying that if I try reaching god he will reveal himself to me right?

Can you provide a link to where I said that and a post number?

(August 10, 2014 at 1:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: personal testimony-and yet he can't, or won't demonstrate that it actually -did- "work" for him.

You have been a member of this board a while right? Just about everything God has done for me has been posted already. I simply did not see a need to rehash.
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Quote:Is He obligated to be Omni benevolent as the Omni max God is bound to be? No. In this freedom God says He is loving and jealous, he gives and He takes from those who are not faithful to what they have, He punishes the wicked and offers redemption those who seek it.

So, God's message is to do unto others as you would have them do unto you, but he chooses not to behave in this manner. Is it any surprise that people don't? When you see people being vindictive and cruel, especially when they are Christians, they are only imitating the behavior of their Heavenly Father.

Which raises the question: does God actually want us to act a certain way? And if so, why doesn't he deal with us in a way that is compatible with how he created us to learn? Is he stupid?
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(August 10, 2014 at 1:40 pm)KUSA Wrote: The only way to find god is to brainwash yourself. Some people can do this in a short amount of time and others take almost a lifetime to do it.

Once you have succeeded in being brainwashed you achieve a level of madness that allows you to think you have experienced god.

This god is of course is different from person to person. This is evidenced in the fact that no two people have the same idea of god.

This knocking that drippy talks about is nothing more than the tormenting process of weakening your mind to the brink of madness at which point you imagine a god loosely resembling the god described in whatever book you chose such as the bible or koran.

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It is the only prescribed path to The Holy Spirit/proof of God.

How do you know if ask seek knock is a way to weaken you mind or the only prescribed path to the Holy Spirit?I've been a member of this board for two maybe three years now, and I can count on one hand the times I have been humbled by one of you looking to do so. If I have weakened my mind, and yet more often than not, can put a clown in his place when I so choose, then what does it say about the state of the mind who gets put in his place by such a "weakened mind?"

Your appeal to dismiss me on stereotypes and wishful thinking fails. Maybe give it some more thought and try again.Thinking
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