Posts: 763
Threads: 122
Joined: August 31, 2011
Reputation:
6
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 12:07 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 11:53 am)Losty Wrote: "Be you male or female, should the weak serve the strong or the strong serve the weak?"
No one has any obligation of servitude. Regardless of their physical strength. 
Parents have a responsibility to care for their children. In most (but not all) cases I would say I parent should give their life to save their child if they can.
But I want to repeat this in case you didn't read it the first time. Absolutely no one is obligated to serve anyone else. Not morally obligated. Not legally obligated. Only scripturally bound and you, Sir, must be mixing up some scriptures because there are not verses that tell men to be subservient to their wives.
Correct. I never indicated that there was.
It is a man himself who should recognize his duty to serve without being told to by some book.
You recognize your duty to you child without being told to by some book above so do not deny man his ability to know his duty without a book either.
His duty is to put his wife and child's needs ahead of himself, --- just as it is your duty to place your child's needs ahead of yourself.
Regards
DL
Posts: 28384
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm
 my duty to my children is because I created them and they are helpless without me.
A man has no inherent duty to serve his wife. If he wants to and he chooses to and she likes it then cool. But he doesn't have to and if he doesn't want to then that doesn't make him less of a man.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 763
Threads: 122
Joined: August 31, 2011
Reputation:
6
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 12:41 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm)Losty Wrote: my duty to my children is because I created them and they are helpless without me.
A man has no inherent duty to serve his wife. If he wants to and he chooses to and she likes it then cool. But he doesn't have to and if he doesn't want to then that doesn't make him less of a man.
Yes it does. Just like you not doing your duty to him would make you less of a woman.
Regards
DL
Posts: 2471
Threads: 21
Joined: December 7, 2013
Reputation:
43
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 12:43 pm
Mutual care and respect is the answer.
Posts: 245
Threads: 3
Joined: June 8, 2014
Reputation:
5
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 1:47 pm
Who is Captain Coward and what is the Law of the Sea? United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) makes no mention of women and children first. That phrase first appeared in 19th century literature (William Douglas O'Connor) and has no basis in maritime law. The procedure is 30 minutes to load passengers then boats away. The only firearm you are likely to see on a ship's captain is for repelling borders against pirates, not gunning down men whose survival instinct is stronger than their adherence to Victorian chivalry.
A king's first responsibility is to the kingdom not the veneration of his queen.Unless of course that queen is Galadriel after Frodo offers her the One Ring. Queens have historically been nothing more than a means of extending one's lineage. Otherwise what use was the for agnatic primogeniture or semi-salic law?
I haven't met too many women that enjoy being placed on a pedestal, never to be touched but always adored, like some porcelain doll. And the woman that "demands what is hers" sounds high maintenance.
Going out this weekend. I don't think, "I'm no cuckold; BUT I will be just in my rule over you," is likely to get me any phone numbers.
Posts: 28384
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 1:52 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 12:41 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: (August 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm)Losty Wrote: my duty to my children is because I created them and they are helpless without me.
A man has no inherent duty to serve his wife. If he wants to and he chooses to and she likes it then cool. But he doesn't have to and if he doesn't want to then that doesn't make him less of a man.
Yes it does. Just like you not doing your duty to him would make you less of a woman.
Regards
DL
Me not doing my duty to whom?
What is my duty?
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 1401
Threads: 7
Joined: March 6, 2013
Reputation:
36
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: August 28, 2014 at 1:56 pm by Tartarus Sauce.)
(August 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm)Losty Wrote: my duty to my children is because I created them and they are helpless without me.
A man has no inherent duty to serve his wife. If he wants to and he chooses to and she likes it then cool. But he doesn't have to and if he doesn't want to then that doesn't make him less of a man.
(August 28, 2014 at 12:41 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: (August 28, 2014 at 12:23 pm)Losty Wrote: my duty to my children is because I created them and they are helpless without me.
A man has no inherent duty to serve his wife. If he wants to and he chooses to and she likes it then cool. But he doesn't have to and if he doesn't want to then that doesn't make him less of a man.
Yes it does. Just like you not doing your duty to him would make you less of a woman.
Regards
DL
I just stumbled into this thread, but I don't think any claim could be made about an obligation to duties unless those duties are defined. I'm sure that's already been gone over though, could anybody give me a brief synopsis (or has it not in fact been covered yet)?
freedomfromfallacy » I'm weighing my tears to see if the happy ones weigh the same as the sad ones.
Posts: 7140
Threads: 12
Joined: March 14, 2013
Reputation:
72
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Zack Wrote: Going out this weekend. I don't think, "I'm no cuckold; BUT I will be just in my rule over you," is likely to get me any phone numbers.
Try it on some Christian women! 
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
Posts: 28384
Threads: 226
Joined: March 24, 2014
Reputation:
185
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 2:01 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: (August 28, 2014 at 12:41 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: Yes it does. Just like you not doing your duty to him would make you less of a woman.
Regards
DL
I just stumbled into this thread, but I don't think any claim could be made about an obligation to duties unless those duties are defined. I'm sure that's already been gone over though, could anybody give me a brief synopsis (or has it not in fact been covered yet)?
All obligatory duties are to be defined by Greatest I am. He is the supreme authority on duties.
(August 21, 2017 at 11:31 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: "I'm not a troll"
Religious Views: He gay
0/10
Hammy Wrote:and we also have a sheep on our bed underneath as well
Posts: 2471
Threads: 21
Joined: December 7, 2013
Reputation:
43
RE: Should man rule over women for women’s own good?
August 28, 2014 at 2:03 pm
(August 28, 2014 at 1:55 pm)Tartarus Sauce Wrote: I just stumbled into this thread, but I don't think any claim could be made about an obligation to duties unless those duties are defined. I'm sure that's already been gone over though, could anybody give me a brief synopsis (or has it not in fact been covered yet)? No gender specific roles have yet been clearly delineated with respect to male and female duties as far as I've seen. There's been some discussion about child-raising, but I've found those arguments divisive and unpersuasive thus far.
(August 28, 2014 at 1:58 pm)Tonus Wrote: (August 28, 2014 at 1:47 pm)Zack Wrote: Going out this weekend. I don't think, "I'm no cuckold; BUT I will be just in my rule over you," is likely to get me any phone numbers. Try it on some Christian women! 
|
